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[clammybird]

First of all, hello community! I have just posted my introductory thread ~ and here, I will keep it short and sweet.

 

I am aware of all the possible variables of what 4-PMPD could be. And I am certainly aware that it is probably best considered research material, collectors item, etc, rather than nootropic. I am someone who has recently gotten clean, and caffeine and I only get along for so long. I am wondering if this is a substance that is gentle enough, but produces real enough results, that I can use on occasion, and not feel guilt about. 

 

There are so many wide varied reports on the compound, and anyone who did reading on just one thread on just one website may end up getting into grave misconceptions of the compound, its dosing, etc.

 

So, in light of it being freely available, surely it is selling, how say you? Does anybody have any new data to add with your experience? Is it caustic research material, pyrovalerone wannabe, is it a mild but consistent energy/cognitive booster like in the vein of adrafinil and not quite amphetamine... is it something much more, people are just under-dosing? Do you think it is completely inactive like a lot seem to?

 

Any and all information would be greatly appreciated. I have relapsed a couple times, and this time around in my sobriety I am 3 weeks since my last slip. Understandably, I am having a very hard time finding that oomph to get needed things done during my day. I am looking for a compound that is a real stimulant, but a mild, dependable, and stable one. Does 4-PMPD fit this description?

[NinefingerJoe]

Willpower my friend. If you've recently cleaned up it would be best to stay clean I think.

[Dakman]

Search the nootropics threads on Reddit, I don't remember what doses I tried buy quite a bit higher than suggested and had little effect. More a upset stomach than any other effects if I remember correctly.

[clammybird]

Its looking like the compound shows its full color profile for many is around the 400mg range.

 

I cannot stress enough that when you hit your tipping point (its tough to pin down at first) you will be VERY surprised with the molecule

 

A sort of 'dopamine empathogen' effect first, kin to back when pentedrone was legal and very few knew that 200-250mg changed it entirely, into extremely relaxing.

 

But 4-PMPD has the capacity of bringing on wild hallucinations, both visual and auditory. Light beams shooting everywhere, shadow animals running around the room, rippling of electronic looking waves when changing focus to another object. No side effects reported besides stiff muscles. 

 

Careful with it.