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#31 dubbyah

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:38 PM

Hello,

 

With a complicated situation like yours, I think getting as much context as possible would be helpful to the forum... there are so many pathways to "inflammation" and essentially your generalizable malaise could be attributable to a lot of factors...

 

Age/height/weight?

Previous levels of physical activity/athleticism before this "grape incident?"

How's your social life/participation in community? Relationship history? Any issues with social anxiety or isolation?

Any health issues before the "grape incident?"

What's your diet like? 

What supplements have you tried (list all you can remember) and reactions to them?

What response do you get from NSAIDs?

Experience with recreational drugs?

 

 

Once we know this we can go forward... thanks!



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 11:56 PM

I don't want to offend anybody but this discussion is sky high on speculation, bs, no facts and irresponsible conclusion making. This you dont sort out with babbling about potential causes but test test test test.
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:05 AM

I don't want to offend anybody but this discussion is sky high on speculation, bs, no facts and irresponsible conclusion making. This you dont sort out with babbling about potential causes but test test test test.


I agree, but then again, it wouldn't be Longecity if the conversation didn't go that way.

I would want more objective data to go on before I even start thinking about what to do. If you can steer the doctor to order some more obscure tests like cytokine panel, detailed endocrine (including T3, RT3, thyroid antibodies, IGF, HGH),testing for pathogens/infections, or other immune system tests a good doctor (IE, not the usual managed care doctor) can conjure up - even better.

#34 fluidity

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 05:27 AM

 

I don't want to offend anybody but this discussion is sky high on speculation, bs, no facts and irresponsible conclusion making. This you dont sort out with babbling about potential causes but test test test test.


I agree, but then again, it wouldn't be Longecity if the conversation didn't go that way.

I would want more objective data to go on before I even start thinking about what to do. If you can steer the doctor to order some more obscure tests like cytokine panel, detailed endocrine (including T3, RT3, thyroid antibodies, IGF, HGH),testing for pathogens/infections, or other immune system tests a good doctor (IE, not the usual managed care doctor) can conjure up - even better.

 

Haha I hope I can do that. Doctors like that are hard to find around my area. So far my tests for liver panel, gallbladder, and pancreas came back fine. Tests for allergies came back positive for Penicllium mold, which is funny because that's what grew on my fruit in my apartment all year. And the worst part I was eating those fruits.

 

Whether there was a fungus or pathogen in the grapes I have no idea. I'm sure something microbial is causing the increase in acetylcholine which is what keeps triggering memories from the past for me. When I drank a jug of kefir a week ago I had experienced the same massive recall in memories from the past that the grapes did except on a smaller scale. I also felt a massive senesation of stimulation around the front of my head that lasted around a day. Also the immune activation/inflammation I felt around my gut from it wasn't pleasant in any way at all. Interesting how probiotic dairy foods are what seem to make my inflammation/mood/energy levels worse.

 

The cytokine panel and innate immunity analysis I will order once I go back to the immunologist. 

 

On another note I'm still baffled at how a single dose of iodine in a drink made me have fungus in my stool for a week. Only after ingesting a huge amount of coconut oil did things start to stabilize.

 

When looking at Th1 dominance and immunity, I see how Interferons can activate IDO and skew the metabolism of Tryptophan towards Nicotinamide rather than Serotonin. I've looked at symptoms online for serotonin deficency and how it relates to personality and mood issue, and I seem to fit all of them. My gut is certainly messed up one way or another, with the addition of heavy metals also propagating the issue. My symptoms of depression all seem to fit what happens when your immune system gets overly active. Whether it's from fungus, heavy metals, or bacterial overgrowth I have no idea. 

 

Serotonin plays huge roles in cAMP and long term potentiation and I've noticed my recall of information previously learned is beyond terrible. It's so bad I can barely remember the names of my professors from a year ago, let alone the material they taught. It's as if I've been passing through life without meaningful experiences that I can recall. 


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 06:41 AM

Getting back to the utter speculation, can you rule out carbon monoxide poisoning and sleep apnea? Are you overweight, do you snore? 


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#36 fluidity

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 07:05 AM

Getting back to the utter speculation, can you rule out carbon monoxide poisoning and sleep apnea? Are you overweight, do you snore? 

Yes, never had a problem with any of them. No, and I've actually lost an excess amount of weight since this has happened. Nope don't snore. 



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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:07 AM

I don't want to offend anybody but this discussion is sky high on speculation, bs, no facts and irresponsible conclusion making. This you dont sort out with babbling about potential causes but test test test test.

I agree, but then again, it wouldn't be Longecity if the conversation didn't go that way.

I would want more objective data to go on before I even start thinking about what to do. If you can steer the doctor to order some more obscure tests like cytokine panel, detailed endocrine (including T3, RT3, thyroid antibodies, IGF, HGH),testing for pathogens/infections, or other immune system tests a good doctor (IE, not the usual managed care doctor) can conjure up - even better.
Haha I hope I can do that. Doctors like that are hard to find around my area. So far my tests for liver panel, gallbladder, and pancreas came back fine. Tests for allergies came back positive for Penicllium mold, which is funny because that's what grew on my fruit in my apartment all year. And the worst part I was eating those fruits.

Whether there was a fungus or pathogen in the grapes I have no idea. I'm sure something microbial is causing the increase in acetylcholine which is what keeps triggering memories from the past for me. When I drank a jug of kefir a week ago I had experienced the same massive recall in memories from the past that the grapes did except on a smaller scale. I also felt a massive senesation of stimulation around the front of my head that lasted around a day. Also the immune activation/inflammation I felt around my gut from it wasn't pleasant in any way at all. Interesting how probiotic dairy foods are what seem to make my inflammation/mood/energy levels worse.

The cytokine panel and innate immunity analysis I will order once I go back to the immunologist.

On another note I'm still baffled at how a single dose of iodine in a drink made me have fungus in my stool for a week. Only after ingesting a huge amount of coconut oil did things start to stabilize.

When looking at Th1 dominance and immunity, I see how Interferons can activate IDO and skew the metabolism of Tryptophan towards Nicotinamide rather than Serotonin. I've looked at symptoms online for serotonin deficency and how it relates to personality and mood issue, and I seem to fit all of them. My gut is certainly messed up one way or another, with the addition of heavy metals also propagating the issue. My symptoms of depression all seem to fit what happens when your immune system gets overly active. Whether it's from fungus, heavy metals, or bacterial overgrowth I have no idea.

Serotonin plays huge roles in cAMP and long term potentiation and I've noticed my recall of information previously learned is beyond terrible. It's so bad I can barely remember the names of my professors from a year ago, let alone the material they taught. It's as if I've been passing through life without meaningful experiences that I can recall.

Wow I strongly relate to your last paragraph. I graduated college this year and I don't remember anything that I learned. It all seems like a blur. Also I suffer from depression which I'm sure is caused by an overactive immune system and inflammation. I have an infection, just don't know if it's viral or bacterial. I've been taking amoxicillin to rule out whether it's bacterial. So far I haven't experienced anything positive. In the mean time ill be working on improving the state of my gut by taking probiotics and epicor. Epicor is an anti inflammatory, prebiotic, and immune system modulator. It's capable of lowering the activity of an overactive immune system, so hopefully it helps.

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:12 AM

What would it mean if Epicor made my symptoms worse?



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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:55 PM

How to completley stop almost ANY inflamation.

 

 

What you need?

 

1. Turmeric

 

2. Ginger

 

3. Cloves 

 

4. Black seed (nigella sativa)

 

5. Rosemary

 

 

You add all of this in this ratio, turmeric 1g, rosemary 1g, ginger 1/2 gram, black seed 2.5g, cloves 1g, add this to your meal with ~ 10ml coconut or best - red palm oil, and add around 3-4 pepercons (freshly grinded) or bioperine 10mg (max per meal)

 

In 2-3 days you will fill FANTASTIC.







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