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Hypothetical question of how much aging one can slow down

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#1 Qowpel

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 02:24 AM


Hello guys. As of today I am precisely 24 and 2 thirds years of age. I am still relatively young.

Anyway I was thinking hypothetically.

If caloric restriction coupled with intermittent fasting as well as methionine restriction can result in say a 30 to 40 percent slowing of aging, if one adds to that ce ferulic serum, daily sunscreen, general sun avoidance, and internal supplments such as biosil, astaxanthin, and l carnosine and tomato paste for a little extra sun protection, one could say that agong can happen at an even sognificantly slower rate rigtht? Especially with the aid of several cups of green tea per day for those pesky MMPs right?

I am just wondering as I am truly trying to halt the aging process as best as possible until longevity research is a bit further along and we can really kick into progressively high gear. What do you guys think?

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 11:26 PM

We don't know enough, we might try, mainly for our amusement, in the hope by chance something we do works.

 

I don't agree with all this sun avoidance at all costs, yes, I know....research tells...bla, bla....

 

If sun exposure was so bad for our survival we would be nocturnal or living underground.

 

Without sun exposure there is very little if any vitamin D which unlikely would lead to an healthier and/or longer life.

 

Sun exposure triggers more than just vitamin D production, probably some of this processes are totally unknown or not well understood in their implications at best.

 

All that smearing sun protection creams, most of which containing harmful components, endocrine disruptors and who knows what else might they cause in long term use...are we really sure is it going to improve our health or ageing?

 

If one is of very pale complexion its evolution likely suggest a cautious sun exposure, not avoidance, just cautious.

 

If one is of darker complexion avoiding sun exposure is likely just against its epigenetic evolution and as such likely detrimental.

 

Common sense often leads to better choices than research, especially when research is still in its infancy.

 

Calories restriction might be OK but lets put it in perspective first.

 

Nowadays most people doesn't have to be very physically active at all in order to make a living and food is abundant all around us, that leads to generally overfed people, especially compared to their actual needs.

 

Leaving alone the junk food which floods most people diets it is quite obvious that in this context "calories reduction" makes quite sense, most people is just overfeed and reducing calories would likely just mean a more appropriate calories intake for the task at hand.

 

I don't think the best strategy for health and longevity is calories restriction, it would be better than nothing to whom doesn't consider changing its life style but still far from ideal.

 

I consider a better strategy to embrace a more active life style and eating appropriately, to me sounds like a more natural and logical choice but of course it is just my thought, no double blind clinical study yet.

 

Fasting 24 hours a week is another matter, it is a tradition we can find in most cultures, nowadays almost forgotten but very old and probably for good reasons.

 

Humans, like most animals, were designed by evolution to withstand periodical fasting times, we likely do better mimicking what once wasn't a choice but just a reality to face, willing or not.

 

Finally the good news: I do fully agree with you on one thing, yes, at 24 you are still relatively young! :)

 

     

 

 


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#3 Qowpel

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:21 AM

thanks aconita I appreciate your input! Anyway for what it is worth I have been following caloric and methionone restrictions along with all I have said above for over three years now so since I turned 21. Now I am 24 as said above. People mistake me often at least 3 to 4 years younger. Who knows. Maybe it is just my genes, but lerhaps my efforts are just starting to show themselves. I wonder

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 01:05 PM

I think anything beyond a well balanced healthy lifestyle is uncertain at this point. We have calorie restriction, which seems the best bet when it comes to longevity, but even that isn't certain when you look at the studies that have come out over the last few years showing some conflicting results. In humans, calorie restriction appears to improve health across the board with huge improvement in almost every measure of health, but how much more like that translates into seems like a total guess at the moment. I'm fairly optimistic, but this is based on my interpretation of the studies, which imo have some faults. To play it safe, you probably want to maintain relatively low BMI and body fat, but not too low. I'd aim for around 19-20 and maintain this. 

 

Supplements should have a good rational behind them.Are you deficient because you're vegetarian or vegan? Then supplement where necessary and keep it relatively simple. Many popular supplements for LE have been shown to not extent life in animals, and the likelihood of them work in humans is probably not much better.

I've been doing calorie restriction for a long time, since I was about 18 I started to cut down on junk food (probably on the more important things) and improve my diet and skincare and now it's pretty clear that it's had a huge impact. One just has to compare all the friends I went to high school with, there is a growing difference. So yeah, it is appear we are ageing differently. I'm 32 now, but get mistaken for being in my late teens to around 22 ( I think the way I have my hair, clothing and if I am clean shaving have an effect here.) At these ages, there doesn't tend to be much difference anyway. I had my 2nd cousins come over with their parents recently for a house party, and they just assumed I was around 17. I never ask anyone to guess my age, they normally just assume these things based on how I am. 

Keep doing what you're doing if it seems to be working. Many people tried to persuade me that all these things were useless and I was wasting my time... but I kept going anyway.  

 

Skinceuticals CE + Ferulic is really good. I used it for abut 6 years or something, but I've recently switched to using Skinceuticals CF + Phlortein and I've noticed some additional improvements by making my pores seem smaller, and the remaining red marks I had from very bad acne when I was younger have faded even further. I combine is with Skinceuticals Advanced Pigment Corrector. Protection from the sun is one of the most important things you can do though... especially if you want to max out the benefits of what you're doing. 

Keep with a good routine and it will pay off in the long run. :) 


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#5 kall

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:49 AM

Are we sure that things like methionine restriction are effective for ageless looks? Or are they only effective for longevity?



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Posted 04 August 2016 - 05:00 PM

It would be great to cut through the bullshit out there and say 'this is proven to work' but as mentioned above it's not 100% possible at this time. 

 

Some of the more popular and supposedly impactful things include exercise, stress-management, sunscreen, diet, the right supplements, and not eating too much, drinking alcohol and not smoking. Some of those like supplements and calorie restriction will have arguments for & against, and you'll have to weigh up the pros and cons. 

 

Personally I eat as cleanly and healthily as possible, I don't overindulge, I exercise routinely, have a very decent skincare regime, I take some supplements (I feel better from taking, or I feel have the potential to work and am persuaded by). I don't eat meat but occasionally I'll eat fish, and skip a meal too. I try and keep my posture correct, read as much as possible and let loose once and a while ;)

 

Stress is something I'm terrible with and don't keep in check enough. I need to! Yoga, meditation, Tai-Chi, Qigong etc. Sleep is another (I must work on) that is important.

 

Little things too add up to in my opinion, like drinking a lot of good quality tea, long walks, talking to people, challenging myself, staying in touch with the arts, fringe and popular culture, researching anti aging etc. The list goes on. 



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Posted 18 August 2016 - 12:48 AM

"I am just wondering as I am truly trying to halt the aging process as best as possible until longevity research is a bit further along and we can really kick into progressively high gear. What do you guys think?"

 

Have you read a variety of articles at http://www.lef.org ?

 

you could communicate with a longevity physician about metformin.  Also, although deprenyl is thought to cause greater longevity as an effect on the brain, they could see if it causes youbnger looking mice as well from some undescribed systemic effect.


Edited by treonsverdery, 18 August 2016 - 12:49 AM.





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