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#1 FrankEd

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:31 PM


Are there any studies backing red maca for use in men BPH?

 

The only mention about red maca and BPH I found was: "In a 2009 study researchers compared the impact of red maca on prostate size IN RATS with induced benign prostatic hyperplasia, a condition in which the prostate is enlarged. Red maca appears to have a prostate-reducing effect..."

 

Of course a rat´s prostate is very different from a man prostate, so could someone have tested it and experienced good results, or knew someone that benefit from red maca?



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 12:28 AM

could also consider shilajit (Primavie, don't waste your money on resins) https://www.ijsr.net...1VCMTQxNzE=.pdf



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:17 AM

could also consider shilajit (Primavie, don't waste your money on resins) https://www.ijsr.net...1VCMTQxNzE=.pdf


I've heard resin is better?

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:26 PM

Purified resin is better, while shilajit is the Indian name mumijo is the Russian which is more likely of nice purified quality.

 

About maca and BPH I know of a Peruvian study which is likely the one mentioned above...but rats do have a quite different androgen hormones behavior than humans and usually they don't relate much at all.

 

I would not take too seriously those kind of researches.

 

About mumijo it is said to be good for almost everything but I have never heard about it and BPH, again what it might do for rats is totally irrelevant to us.

 

Anyway both mumijo and maca are nice supplements and for a cheap enough price might be worth a try, not sure about their effectiveness on BPH at all, consider instead glycine, alanine, and glutamic acid which has been proved to be effective.

 

 http://nutritionandh...anine-glutamic/

 

 



#5 FrankEd

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:26 PM

Hi Aconita, thanks for your valuable input. If possible, could you please recommend a product with these three compounds?

 

Thank you again.



#6 Ark

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:29 PM

https://lostempirehe...oduct/shilajit/

#7 Adaptogen

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:20 AM

I don't think there is any scientific basis for believing that resins are more potent or effective than powders. IMO, this is just a rumor perpetuated by shilajit resin vendors to accommodate their grossly overpriced products, (~$2-3 / gram resin is the going rate on amazon).  Processed shilajit standardized to high fulvic acid % is generally what has been used in published research, so there is no real reason to assume buying a much more expensive product will be better.

The other myth to justify the high cost by US resin companies is that there is frequent contamination and counterfeiting of shilajit, which I also believe is not a significant problem and one kept alive by the likes of PurBlack and others for their own benefit. Generally, I don't think issues with even heavy metals are much of a problem, especially in resins which are non-concentrated. Powders/processed shilajit are more likely to have higher accumulation of metals, but this is natural since it is generally around 10:1 concentrate of the resin. Heavy Metal Profile of Shilajit Samples Obtained from Gilgit and Chellas, Pakistan (Short Communication)

Primavie has over a dozen published studies behind it, with past and ongoing clinical trials, and is about as cheap as it gets for $13 / 15 grams (60% fulvic acid) capped up and dosed appropriately.  http://www.iherb.com...30?rcode=WQV336

If I was absolutely going to get the resin, I would just buy some cheap Russian Altai mountain shilajit at $14.50 / 100 grams (3-5% fulvic acid) http://www.ebay.com/...e-/111938326043

I've used Purblack, Lotus Blooming Herbs, Sunfood Powder, and Jarrow's Primavie and notice no difference in effects between any of them, and both powders taste and smell pretty much the same as resins.

 


Edited by Adaptogen, 16 February 2017 - 12:27 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:04 AM

I suggest to buy the bulk powders and mix them 1:1:1 , 1g of the mix 2-3 times a day.

 

Be aware alanine is not the more common BETA alanine but the still not too difficult to find L-alanine.

 

Those are really cheap and don't need encapsulation since taste is really nice (sweet), a measuring spoon will suffice, just mix with a bit of water and drink.

 

Can't be easier and cheaper, really. 

 

I don't think there is any scientific basis for believing that resins are more potent or effective than powders. IMO, this is just a rumor perpetuated by shilajit resin vendors to accommodate their grossly overpriced products

 

I agree that there is no reason whatsoever for buying overpriced products, resin is how it comes in nature, purification is by solving the raw resin in water, filtering the impurities and letting evaporate most of the water in order to get back to the original texture, powder needs total evaporation which might involve undesirable heating or processing but not necessarily, I am not sure if total drying will negatively affect some compound.

 

I prefer resin just because that's how it comes in nature, likely undergoes less processing and from Russia, where I buy my from, it's the most common form, can't see why unnecessarily complicate things.

 

Since we are talking about BPH and because often prostatitis is at least a con-cause of symptoms LIPUS is an effective treatment worth considering.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4964433/

 

Epilobium parviflorum is a little known but very interesting herb for treating BPH, most literature about it is in german.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ium_parviflorum

 

Rising testosterone and lowering estradiol is likely a good strategy.



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

Hi Aconita, thanks for your valuable input. If possible, could you please recommend a product with these three compounds?

 

Thank you again.

 

There is a product with all these three compounds, although Aconita is probably right that it's better and more cost-effective to make your own mix: https://www.amazon.c...t/dp/B0014AUXK2
 



#10 FrankEd

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

Can you help me with some questions?
1) Glutamic acid is not the same as glutamate, because glutamic acid is the hydrogenated form of the amino acid and glutamate is the dehydrogenated form. Is that right?
2) I have only one working kidney, is there any evidence that glycyne, glutamic acid or alanine could harm kidneys? 


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Posted 21 February 2017 - 12:40 AM

http://www.livestron...acid-glutamate/

 

I am not able to properly answer your second question, you need to ask your doctor in order to make sure since your condition has to be properly evaluated.



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 06:57 PM

In another forum someone told me natural herbal supplements work to help reduce and keep the prostate normal size

 

He told me only Cialis and Finasteride work

 

everything else doesnt work, Saw Palmetto is actually dangerous and untested it gives you the side effects of Finasteride without the hair or prostate benefits.

 

I read Lycopene gives a false impression of it helping reduce the size because it makes your urine flow stronger, if you have a weak flow just take cranberry juice it helps.

 

But I never heard of Red Maca helping for prostate, most I heard of is Maca helps energy


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