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#31 Duchykins

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 02:33 AM

Religion gave birth to the Sciences and values life.  However we realize everything only physical dies is a scientific statement with overwhelming evidence.

 

 

Actually philosophy gave birth to the sciences.  Empirical science is literally the direct descendant of natural philosophy; the stuff of Socrates and Aristotle.    Not Plato, though, he was overly focused on the internal.  To this day, the scientific method remains firmly rooted in philosophy, and is antithetical to religious approaches to the world.

 

Philosophy in general arose because the people were unsatisfied with religion's hollow answers.

 

Religion was humanity's first attempt at philosophy and science.   That's why it sucks.  It was the first try.  But now we have something better.


Edited by Duchykins, 24 February 2017 - 02:47 AM.


#32 seivtcho

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 06:35 AM

Evidence.  This goes against established scientific findings.

 

Science develops, changes and adapts, and thus makes everything possible. 

 

Evidences for the capability of the science to make everything possible is everything arround you - your appartment, the houses arround you, the computer, the desk, even the pencil. 

 

Everything that you can die from is defeatable. 

Some day all causes for death will be defeated. 

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#33 platypus

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:53 AM

 

Evidence.  This goes against established scientific findings.

 

Science develops, changes and adapts, and thus makes everything possible. 

 

Magic makes "everything" possible, not science. Science has to work within the confines of physical laws which dictate what is possible and what is not possible. 



#34 seivtcho

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 09:18 AM

True. But again - which thing, that you can die from is undefeatable by scientific laws? 

 

And are you sure, that you know the laws? 

"According to the laws of physics known today cockchafers can't fly. But as we all know, they do. "

This has been said in the hot air baloons era, when it was postulated that only things lighter than the air can fly. 



#35 shadowhawk

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 12:18 AM

OP claims he's immortal because he's a True Christian, gotta love that.

Sol what do you claim?

 



#36 Duchykins

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 09:52 PM

 

OP claims he's immortal because he's a True Christian, gotta love that.

Sol what do you claim?

 

 

I'm just here for the laughs.



#37 shadowhawk

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:41 PM

 

 

OP claims he's immortal because he's a True Christian, gotta love that.

Sol what do you claim?

 

 

I'm just here for the laughs.

 

NONE?  Haha.  :)



#38 shadowhawk

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 10:22 PM

True. But again - which thing, that you can die from is undefeatable by scientific laws? 

 

And are you sure, that you know the laws? 

"According to the laws of physics known today cockchafers can't fly. But as we all know, they do. "

This has been said in the hot air baloons era, when it was postulated that only things lighter than the air can fly. 

 

Second Law of Thermodynamics a law show by science.  How can YOU defeat it?  There are many more.

 

 


 



#39 seivtcho

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 11:21 PM

Are you sure you have the absolute knowledge for the thermodynamic laws? According to them it is possible to build a closed thermodynamic system with energy and matter constantly circulating inside.



#40 shadowhawk

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:26 AM

No one has absolute knowledge of anything.  I do not think this is what current second law theory claims and I can think of several reasons against it.

 



#41 seivtcho

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 08:46 PM

Energy can be rotated in a cycle without any loss. So is matter. Thats the true.

 

From there starts the fiction of making a habitat for the human kind, that doesnt allow energy or matter to leave the habitat and this become independent from the cold death of the universe.



#42 shadowhawk

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 12:20 AM

Fiction



#43 seivtcho

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:05 AM

The fiction is the first step of everything, that saves the day.



#44 shadowhawk

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:18 PM

Fiction and Lala.  You have made a claim of salvation with zero evidence..  There is not absolute evidence for anything but we should at least have some.  Fiction on the first step means fiction on the last.  Your claims are less than no more dying for believers.  



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:21 AM

Where can one buy Pinatos? Can someone please paste a link?

Many thanks,

Nancy





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