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https://www.yahoo.co...-222429612.html

 

she has been working there for 44 years and eats mcdonalds daily. i understand she is not 100+ but to live to this age and eat mcdonalds regularly, is mcdonalds even bad for you at the end? or is this some kind of advertisement campaign??

[adamh]

It proves  nothing, not only a n=1 but also consider that you will find many people who smoke, drink, and have other bad habits who lived to a ripe old age. Does that mean we should smoke and drink, eat at mcdonalds? No, it means they lived that long in spite of bad habits. Statistics show that junk food, tobacco, etc increase the risk of many diseases.

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well, i have never seen statistics done on a population from their childhood into their old age doing junk food, smoking and drinking and there being a solid proof over a long course showing they do get sick and die usually earlier than others who do not have bad habits. but, i have read a lot about eating healthy and excercising if you want to live long, its just that, the stats are not reliable enough to this day, until someone does a real good very long term highly controlled and well done study to show that im still finding most of those just a tease

[YOLF]

They do have salads and apples and things... you don't have to eat the junk. But this disrupts the resistance people have to eating there, esp. those who aren't wise. It is advertising imo, they might as well be selling cigarettes to kids.

[Keizo]

Well there are other factors than diet. So you have quite a bit of people in the "fitness" community on e.g. youtube promoting "eat all you want", and they choke down pizza, hamburgers, etc. But of course those people are doing lots of exercise (or using drugs that prevent certain bad effects of excess calories, etc), have large muscle mass (which can help prevent cancer), or might burn of insane amounts of calories due to running, swimming etc.

So besides people with good genes being able to get away with bad habits, you might have people with good habits being able to get away with bad habits, so to speak. And in the case of some extreme people they might need to eat extreme diets involving pizza, hamburgers, etc, because they have insane caloric demands.

 

Anyway most people will probably eventually get fat if they do a "eat all you want, if it fits your macros" diet.

[mccoy]

n=1 in this case maybe very deceptive. If there were 10000 people like that, then the meaning would be a little different. But, out of one million people eating regularly at McDonald, how many reach an healthy 94 years? All one million? Then McDonald is the way to longevity. Reality is that, most probably, out of one million only a very few very resilient people will reach that age. And I might add, those resilient people might have just subtracted 15 years to their potential had they eaten more healtily, that is they die at 100 ehereas they might have died at 115.

 

In addition, do we have a breakdown of the meals she consumed? Type and quantity of foods? Some McDonald dishes have been developed by Dean Ornish, like the salad with apple slices ( I don't know if that's still available) and that's sure an healthy food. Even bad foods in very small amounts might not have been so harmful. That lady might have been practicing caloric restriction, as far as we know.

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just wanted to say to yolf, i know and have read dozen of articles of centenarians who smoke cigarettes regularly. can it be an item for longevity? i dont think so, but it doesnt mean everyone gets disease from them and just as big tobacco companies claim nobody will die from their products, same radical way go the people against their products, claiming ALL of them are unsafe. i hope you see the point here, none of them are right and cigarettes are just a minor problem in relation predominantly to aging and genes

[YOLF]

just wanted to say to yolf, i know and have read dozen of articles of centenarians who smoke cigarettes regularly. can it be an item for longevity? i dont think so, but it doesnt mean everyone gets disease from them and just as big tobacco companies claim nobody will die from their products, same radical way go the people against their products, claiming ALL of them are unsafe. i hope you see the point here, none of them are right and cigarettes are just a minor problem in relation predominantly to aging and genes

Of course, some might have resistance to those diseases caused by smoking and some of that resistance may come from the aging process. But the disease is probably just progressing more slowly in the smoker who is resistant and if they do manage to live long enough will get lung cancer or whatever else. Perhaps someday they can smoke w/o worry, but that day is probably beyond their life expectancy at this point. I wouldn't risk it.

Edited by YOLF, 05 April 2017 - 04:40 PM.