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C667T homozygous but get depressed on methylfolate (metafolin)

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#31 Paul Vrana

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 05:24 PM

FWIW, Please be careful in terms of thinking of that higher DNA methylation levels are necessarily better .

Here is a  cautionary review I co-authored (after our own research suggested detrimental effects of large amounts of dietary methyl donors).

 

Epigeneticmechanisms are now recognized to play roles in disease etiology. Several diseases increasing in frequency are associated with altered DNA methylation. DNA methylation is accomplished through metabolism of methyl donors such as folate, vitamin B12, methionine, betaine (trimethylglycine), and choline. Increased intake of these compounds correlates with decreased neural tube defects, although this mechanism is not well understood. Consumption of these methyl donor pathway components has increased in recent years due to fortification of grains and high supplemental levels of these compounds (e.g. vitamins, energy drinks). Additionally, people with mutations in one of the enzymes that assists in the methyl donor pathway (5-MTHFR) are directed to consume higher amounts of methyl donors to compensate. Recent evidence suggests that high levels of methyl donor intake may also have detrimental effects. Individualized medicine may be necessary to determine the appropriate amounts of methyl donors to be consumed, particularly in women of child bearing age.

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#32 Squallor

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 01:41 AM

In regards to caffeine, should I be careful not to go over a certain amount due its effects on adrenal health?

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 01:56 AM

Nice, seems like something to be very careful with, would you still recommend that hetrozygotes test their homocysteine?.
Some seem to think methylation has little impact at this level(quackwatch vs yakso etc)
Its hard to know how relevant this is to my so far undiagnosed inflammation and somewhat severe osteoporosis. Im only 46 and no one can find any cause for it

#34 Paul Vrana

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:19 PM

I think I probably would make sure my homocysteine got tested in that situation.   It's an interesting but frustrating time - it's clear we need personalized medicine based on genetics and epigenetic patterns, but we're still  a ways from fully realizing that.... :|?  

 

 

 


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#35 Iuvenale

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:18 AM

Chris Masterjohn recommends supplementing NOT with folate, but with creatine, glycine (hydrolyzed collagen), and choline. The idea is that there is a lack of methyl groups, and half of the methyl groups are used for creatine. If you cut down the need, you have solved the problem. Here's the video: https://chrismasterj...ing-with-mthfr/



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#36 Iuvenale

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:08 PM

In regards to caffeine, should I be careful not to go over a certain amount due its effects on adrenal health?

Almost all claims about adrenal health are pseudoscience. Don't believe them. If you are curious, search Pubmed. I did a cursory search and saw nothing about caffeine affecting adrenal health.






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