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[kurdishfella]

hi im a male and im taking progesterone im on week 2 now and I can tell a few differences... My skin looks better, my hair grows faster, nails grow faster, Gyno dissapearing, Lost some fat. those are the changes i seen . I was hoping it would cure my depression and social anxiety n fatigue . I read progesteroen acts on gaba like benzodisapines and you get an anti-anxiety effect from it and it supposedly balances neurontransmitters or something.. How long will I need to see a huge change if you have been progesterone deficient for years? I read it takes 2-6 months but how much truth is there to that? the gab is pretty big too .. Also what dosage etc.. im taking 12 mg mornin n 12mg night. 

 

how much progesterone do men produce? and women? (just so i can compare)

i heard its 12-15mg daily for  normal functoning men . 

Edited by farshad, 13 August 2017 - 02:34 PM.

[kurdishfella]

also i was wondering if this combination; progesterone+ pregnenolone+ dhea , are good? theres some talk on the net about it being very effective..

Edited by farshad, 13 August 2017 - 04:44 PM.

[normalizing]

i dunno about personal reports on this, but all neurosteroids, progesterone, dhea, pregnenolone, estrogen in general are neurorestorative and neuroprotective and all the studies i have read about state that. if you do research, you will see for yourself so not sure what you are asking here, if there are safe or what? i dont know that for sure, just as testosterone and estrogen in excess can either build you up or ruin you, i would be cautious of overdoing it.

personally, my opinion is pregnenolone sulfate (the version in studies used and not available to the public yet) is the best neurosteroid you can use for anything. it has such compelling research on brain function, hard to ignore!

[kurdishfella]

i dunno about personal reports on this, but all neurosteroids, progesterone, dhea, pregnenolone, estrogen in general are neurorestorative and neuroprotective and all the studies i have read about state that. if you do research, you will see for yourself so not sure what you are asking here, if there are safe or what? i dont know that for sure, just as testosterone and estrogen in excess can either build you up or ruin you, i would be cautious of overdoing it.

personally, my opinion is pregnenolone sulfate (the version in studies used and not available to the public yet) is the best neurosteroid you can use for anything. it has such compelling research on brain function, hard to ignore!

why is progesterone sulfate not avalibale yet?.

is there such thing as progesterone sulfate and dhea sulfate too? 

 

they are the Three Youth-Associated Hormones..

http://chestsculptin....aspartic-acid/

http://raypeat.com/a....hormones.shtml
this Seems like a very beneficial combination.. I already take progesterone and it has made some huge positive changes for me in only 2 weeks it takes months to really see changes so i cant imagine how i feel in a month from now.
I will possible be adding these to my daily stuff to take. each of these 3 has very good benefits. I have taken pregnenolone and dhea before but not together but i remember they were very beneficial i dont know why i quit them. Now I cant imagine taking 3 these together hmm.. Too bad this combo is unknown not much information on it out there.

progesterone benefits
https://selfhacked.c....e-4-drawbacks/
pregnenolone benefits
https://selfhacked.c....ing-drawbacks/
dhea benefits
https://draxe.com/dhea/

200mg DHEA daily
200mg pregnenolone daily
progesterone I currently take 24mg .. dont know if i need higher probably do ..
btw this is just how much i would take.

Edited by farshad, 20 August 2017 - 03:35 PM.

[normalizing]

actually you shouldnt be taking them regularly for more than a month, you should take breaks. from what i read on various supplement informations it says to take breaks in between. i would think that makes sense and its reasonable

[PeaceAndProsperity]

No there's no reason to take breaks. Use your head. Why do you need breaks? The thought is obviously to restore natural production and prevent testicular atrophy but there is no testicular shutdown from pregnenolone and dhea, they do not have a feedback loop in the same way that testosterone does.

 

How the hell did you get your hands on progesterone?

[kurdishfella]

No there's no reason to take breaks. Use your head. Why do you need breaks? The thought is obviously to restore natural production and prevent testicular atrophy but there is no testicular shutdown from pregnenolone and dhea, they do not have a feedback loop in the same way that testosterone does.

 

How the hell did you get your hands on progesterone?

you can get it otc??

i use this https://www.longnatu...E-Complex-34-ml

[normalizing]

peaceandprosperity, you are the biggest retard i have met thus far in the whole world and im going to block you now. i hope you DIE

[PeaceAndProsperity]

Correction, it may still be progestogenic. Read this study

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC3800090/

 

 

What you bought is almost certainly not progesterone, though it may contain estrogen or phytoestrogens. If it treats menopause, which is caused by a deficiency of estrogen, then it must have estrogenic properties. The primary reason that progesterone is added to menopause treatment is because progesterone has antagonistic effects on estrogen receptors, so it protects against some of the side-effects of too much estrogen.

I tried buying a progesterone cream myself and just like you I got scammed. What I got was a cream with some phyoestrogen in it (made my nipples very sensitive) and probably the saponin diosgenin and other junk.

 

"Dr. Peat's Progest E Replenishing Oil Complex from Kenogen is natural bioidentical progesterone derived from wild yam preserved in vitamin E oil."

 

"...dispel a common myth in this country that wild yam is a good source of progesterone. In reality, wild yam should not be used for this purpose.

Wild yam is a plant source for a saponin called diosgenin (the active component in wild yams), which can be converted in a laboratory into progesterone.

However, your body cannot convert diosgenin into progesterone, DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone) or any other sex hormone, and wild yam does not naturally contain any progesterone that your body can use. The progesterone that is made from wild yam is known as pharmaceutical progesterone because it only exists after a chemical conversion process has been performed in a lab.

So, wild yam products that say they contain "natural progesterone" -- and many do -- can be misleading because progesterone does not actually exist in wild yams, nor can your body convert any wild yam components into it."

Edited by PeaceAndProsperity, 21 August 2017 - 10:52 AM.

[kurdishfella]

i emailed them about that and this is what they said 

 

''If you read what Dr. Raymond Peat has said, he was one of the first in the field to write about the wild yam deception. The process of converting the wild yam to progesterone is very involved and requires several steps until just the progesterone is remaining. This conversion process is done in a lab before the Progest E Complex is mixed with the vitamin E oil so you are getting only the purest natural progesterone. It is important to be aware that the procedure was done correctly so the end product is natural progesterone, that it was purified completely, and that no adulterants have been added.

 

Dr. Peat uses only the purest natural progesterone and is USP certified. The product is micronized to smaller than the legal requirements to call a product micronized, it is highly available to the body.''