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[jroseland]

I'm curious about the status of the UK's psychoactive ban. Perhaps some British Biohackers can tell me...

• Is it effecting the availability of Modafinil much?
• Are you able to get Moda with a doctors prescription?
• Are they cracking down on the online Modafinil stores? Are they delivering reliably?
• Is Modafinil use criminalized?
• Anyone familiar with the consequences if you get caught importing it?

Or is is still highly available and easy to get your hands on?

[medievil]

Haha getting anything for a docter in the UK, good look with that, the healthcare here is in a absolutely horrible condition, the French minister of health even called the healthcare here medieval, the medical mistakes they make on a constant basis is outrages.

 

The NHS has all the latest technology tough and computer databases and all that gizmo, that's apperantly more important then health care, it has its good points for definite but the problems it has caused the red cross last winter to declare a humanitarian crisis here in the UK, cancer operations cancelled all the time, not enough beds, patients discharged in the middle of the night without transport etc..

 

The problem is all the money goes to managers and executives that regulate the thing instead of the health staff.

[jroseland]

That's what I suspected. What about ordering Nootropics privately? Has the psychoactives ban made it more difficult to get Nootropics delivered?  

Haha getting anything for a docter in the UK, good look with that, the healthcare here is in a absolutely horrible condition

 

[justmodz]

To get a prescription for modafinil from a doctor is a long and almost impossible task in the UK.  Modafinil is not a widely prescribed drug in the UK and if you try the route of narcolepsy - which is what you would mainly get it for - then you would get referred to a specialist who would refer you to a sleep clinic for testing.  There they would determine if you do suffer from a sleep disorder and refer you back to the specialist who would then decide on the treatment, and  if he prescribes modafinil (I have personally only come across one person who has been prescribed modafinil) then that goes back to the GP who will continue on the medication.  An ordinary GP would not prescribe modafinil usually.  However, you can get modafinil from a genuine online UK pharmacy - one that is licensed and has a registered pharmacist.  Here you do an online questionnaire which if you lie nicely will see you getting modafinil at a price but it is not for long term I think three months maximum if you lie well enough.  

 

These are the prescribing guidelines in the UK for modafinil 

Modafinil   Legal Class: POM  How Supplied: Modafinil  Price: 100mg tab, 30=£4.30.
200mg tab, 30=£9.12.  Indications: Excessive sleepiness associated with narcolepsy with or without cataplexy.  Adults: 200—400mg daily in two divided doses in the morning and at noon, or once daily in the morning.  Children: Under 18 years, not recommended.  Elderly: Initially 100mg daily; max 400mg daily.  

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As modafinil is a prescription medicine it does not fall under the Psychoactive Substances Act so importing it is not affected, however, thanks to Brexit there have been added an extra customs officers who are very annoying as they open far more parcels than before but so long as you bring in only enough for personal use for three months there should be no problems - just do not bring in any illegall drugs with your modafinil as then you get a very nasty letter from MHRA, your goods seized and will probably have all future parcels checked though some will no doubt manage to slip through customs checks.  So modafinil importations no have not been affected by the Psychoactive Substances Act  but there is a great possibility that after Brexit things will become far harder when it comes to imports 

 

However, and this is the main bit all other nootropics fall within the Act and so therefore it is harder to get them - I used to sell them at one time on ebay - so yes it is getting harder especially as lot now come from Europe and thus, with Brexit, imports are going to become more difficult.  UK based sellers selling nootropics are few and far between now 

Edited by justmodz, 11 March 2018 - 09:15 PM.

[dramachiavellian]

the psychoacive substances ban is literally impossible to effectively enforce - my buying habits haven't changed since before it came into effect 2 years ago. the uk is in the middle of a funding crisis, and even if it wasn't, the police force simply wouldn't have the means to pursue casual nootropic users. the biggest effect of the psychoactive substances ban is that companies that sell such substances no longer advertise. that's about as much as i've personally noticed.

[justmodz]

actually it is possible to enforce and that is at the border where customs will stop parcels and which is what already happens.  Most people though are getting stuff in since they are in  such small amounts that they are coming through (think what here in the UK would be termed a large letter - probably C/O sized padded envelopes) as the checking on small items on entry is not as rigorous as it is with parcels.  There were some 3000 extra customs officers recruited and trained last year and these are now starting to be used at the borders (airports/mail centres/ sea ports).  No the police wont enforce the act as that is not where they are trying to hit  nootropics where it will be is at the airports when mail comes in and that then is a customs issue.  They are hitting mail harder than ever before and it is HMRC who are doing this the police will not come into the equation.  HMRC are checking more and more items and they are looking for yes bigger imports at the moment but should they get lucky and find smaller imports then they will stop the letter/packet and seize the goods and send you a letter.  If the goods stopped and seized are deemed to be of more interest and deemed to of an higher classification then it will go to MHRA who will send you a very nasty letter.  If the quantity is large enough then they will let the goods through and wait for them to be delivered and then it is knock knock at your door and the police wont be there it will HMRC who have far wider powers than the police.   So anyone on here is bring in small amounts  you should be fine as the 3000 extra customs officers are not all going to be sitting at the mail centre at Heathrow since once Brexit is about to come into force many who haven't already been sent elsewhere will disperse  to the ports and be there ready to hit imports from the EU but you will still have extra customs officers at the mail centre at Heathrow.  Yes police funding is at an all time low but HMRC has been given extra money to deal with Brexit.  I bring in modafinil and in larger amounts as I sell and there is the worry that soon they will jump on even stuff coming in from India.  There is a worldwide problem with fentanyl and customs worldwide are trying to crack down on this and even though this comes from China it is going to affect imports from places like like India

 

And if there is a no deal Brexit well add another 5000 extra customs officers to the 3000 already recruited.  https://www.ft.com/c...a3-38a6e068f464

[Major Legend]

actually it is possible to enforce and that is at the border where customs will stop parcels and which is what already happens.  Most people though are getting stuff in since they are in  such small amounts that they are coming through (think what here in the UK would be termed a large letter - probably C/O sized padded envelopes) as the checking on small items on entry is not as rigorous as it is with parcels.  There were some 3000 extra customs officers recruited and trained last year and these are now starting to be used at the borders (airports/mail centres/ sea ports).  No the police wont enforce the act as that is not where they are trying to hit  nootropics where it will be is at the airports when mail comes in and that then is a customs issue.  They are hitting mail harder than ever before and it is HMRC who are doing this the police will not come into the equation.  HMRC are checking more and more items and they are looking for yes bigger imports at the moment but should they get lucky and find smaller imports then they will stop the letter/packet and seize the goods and send you a letter.  If the goods stopped and seized are deemed to be of more interest and deemed to of an higher classification then it will go to MHRA who will send you a very nasty letter.  If the quantity is large enough then they will let the goods through and wait for them to be delivered and then it is knock knock at your door and the police wont be there it will HMRC who have far wider powers than the police.   So anyone on here is bring in small amounts  you should be fine as the 3000 extra customs officers are not all going to be sitting at the mail centre at Heathrow since once Brexit is about to come into force many who haven't already been sent elsewhere will disperse  to the ports and be there ready to hit imports from the EU but you will still have extra customs officers at the mail centre at Heathrow.  Yes police funding is at an all time low but HMRC has been given extra money to deal with Brexit.  I bring in modafinil and in larger amounts as I sell and there is the worry that soon they will jump on even stuff coming in from India.  There is a worldwide problem with fentanyl and customs worldwide are trying to crack down on this and even though this comes from China it is going to affect imports from places like like India

 

And if there is a no deal Brexit well add another 5000 extra customs officers to the 3000 already recruited.  https://www.ft.com/c...a3-38a6e068f464

For the record, the MHRA can get a warrant from the police easily, they will proceed to kick down your door. It has happened to a friend of mine.

Do you know if they check on exports?

Damn, my home country is getting worst and worst, sucks.

Edited by Major Legend, 14 March 2018 - 07:26 PM.

[justmodz]

The MHRA can apply for a warrant to search  a property themselves they do not need the police for that what they do is take the police along to enforce that warrant and if needs be effect entry to a property and also to search the property. 

 

It is darn long time since I worked in exports but no it is rare to check exports they do not go through customs but an occasional check will take place  especially if there is a suspicion that there is contraband in a shipment,  Sending by mail is a far safer option as mail is manifested and bagged up ready for sending to the airport and loading into a container.  Your biggest worry is at the entry into a foreign port. 

 

It isn't only the UK that is employing more customs officers as the Netherlands have already plans to employ an extra 750 customs officers because of Brexit 

https://www.politico...ials-to-tackle/

 

 

 

 

[Major Legend]

Thanks. That's useful info.