@pamoija,
You're making invalid assumptions. No, we will certainly NOT object to anyone posting about a "negative reaction" to any of our products! Try it for ex. here. Say you took our C60-EVOO, that then your hemmorhoids acted up and that you blame it on our product. All you'll hear from me is laughter and incredulty, if I bother responding. Of course, if you claim that it is a fact that our product causes hemmorhoids then you've just accused us of being criminals (selling products that cause illness is a prisonable offense), and that's illegal unless you can PROVE that our product causes hemmorhoids. Then it's not us being criminals but you. It's obvious that many people do not understand the concept of libel. Libel is that you say that you are 100% certain that a person or company are criminals (due to knowingly selling products that cause disease, for ex.) or of bad character. And that you have no proof for that that stands up in court. Any other utterance is not libel.
And any negative reviews: When sincere and with merit, we consider them a learning experience. We always improve our products based on experiences. We switch suppliers regularly for that reason as well. I am always apologetic when our products underperform.
So please don't say such things. They have no basis in fact. What I object to is CRIMINAL acts. When you say: "Vaughter Wellness are a bunch of gangsters because their products poison people and they lie about their products" then that is illegal unless you can prove it beyond any reasonable doubt in court. Then you're a criminal if you can't prove it. Posting a personal opinion or a genuine negative experience is not an accusation of us being criminals. Please try to be fair and think before making such allegations for which you have absolutely no basis. Libel is such a serious offense that in nearly all jurisdictions, lengthy prison sentences (up to seven years, in Switzerland) can be given in serious instances. It's an extremely serious crime in quite a few instances. Fines in the million of dollars and damages in the tens of millions of dollars had to be paid and people did go to jail for libel. Libel is not about opinions and experiences. Libel is claiming that someone is a criminal and you can't prove it. Apart from libel, perhaps it's easier to look at it this way: It is a crime to falsely accuse someone of having committed a crime. This falls under libel law, but it's explained more succinctly. Usually there are no consequences for the accuser. Accusing a "celebrity" like Donald Trump of Hillary Clinton will only result in legal action when you claim outrageous things like having been raped by them. Because the courts apply different thresholds as to what constitutes libel when it's against a public figure. Except in North Korea, lol. Also, libeling an entity without the funds for a legal defense remains without consequence. However when you severely threaten an entity in a significant income stream, and you do that wholly without merit, then that entity will have the means and the motive to defend themselves. That's called a "libel case". Because it's a crime to falsely accuse someone of a crime. And the standard of required proof not to lose such a case is extremely high, since the accuser is the one who "picked the fight". a fight that can have very serious consequences for the attacked party. The burden of proof is 100% on the libeler and he'll have to convince a court that he is 100%, not 99% correct in every accusation made. At the exact time the accusation was made. Or it's damages, penalties and legal costs.
The reason that courts look upon libel as such a grave offense is that it takes many years to build up a reputation, with lots of hard work. But one single malicious allegation can completely destroy all that hard work. In extreme cases, enormous destruction of value and livelihoods can result. And people LOVE to bad-mouth others. Which can be triggered by any of have myriads of reasons. Perhaps you slighted them. Offended their sensibilities. Said something non-PC. Disagreed with them. Stole their limelight. Competed successfully with them. They don't like the tone of your voice, they don't like your politics, the color of your skin, your gender, your nationality, perhaps you just seem a good victim - people will find a reason. Society can't function that way. So the courts require absolute proof that such claims are true, and the burden is on the accuser to neatly present all the evidence. In a libel case against Turnbuckle we will never be required to defend against any of his claims. The court will have one demand only and to one party only; Turnbuckle. He will get one chance to present incontrovertible evidence becasue in many cases he will not even be allowed to appeal. But if he appeals, the same situation: We stay at home and he will have to present perfect proof that at the time of his claim, all his claims were 100% correct. If not, at the very least he'll be convicted to pay the court costs, veryt likely also our legal costs and nearly always a penalty for having comitted libel. Damages are only awarded when we can prove them, which is very hard. But a judge often increases the penalty when it's clear that some damage has occured. That is why we never actually sued someone for libel. Their attorney will tell them they can't win the case, and that settling is very much cheaper than letting it go to court. Enfin - we'll see wehter Turnbuckle retracts and deletes his libel. If not, as soon as I get to it well find an attorney and Longecity can expect a supoena for his IP address. If anyone else plans to libel us as well, please do it now or in the next few days because it won't cost us any extra to get their IP's as well. It will all be in the same supoena.
Edited by SarahVaughter, 03 November 2017 - 08:56 PM.
Oh well then you did a bad job. As I said, we never had to litigate and always settled. If you recall, I mentioned a cost of 1000 to 1500 for most attorney's letters, the latter figure when two letters are required to get the other party to the table and I also mentioned that we only settle when our costs are recouped. Please don't worry about our finances on our behalf. I think we do a pretty swell job ourselves. I also run a psychology site, by the way. It's another one of my special interests. I find it fascinating, the thinking processes of people who say things like: "You talk too much". When these people you'd like to shut up are trying to minimize potentially enormous damage to their livelihood and that of others who rely upon them. Did you know that approximately 4% of the population have antisocial personality disorder? Those used to be called "full blown clinical psychopaths" by the general public. Fascinating topic. A lot of those folks like to troll people online in their spare time, to blow off steam as it were. Many are productive members of society though, being surgeons and such. My site is called ownshrink.com BTW, since you decided to be off-topic. Have a look. There is a cute girl talking. 
