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Sunflower lecithin causing burning lips

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#1 muntjac

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:23 AM


About 45 minutes after eating anywhere from 1/4 ts to 1 1/2 tb of powdered sunflower lecithin (NOW brand) I develop a raw, tingling, burning sensation at the corner of my lips that lasts a few minutes. The higher dose caused insomnia, reflux, and migrating muscle aches/cramps, I assumed this was due to excess acetylcholine; the lower dose did not.

 

Citicoline/CDP Choline at a dose of 250 mg twice a day did not cause any symptoms or noticeable effects, though I did have vivid dreams after discontinuing it. I'm now doing a trial of alpha-GPC and have started at a very small dose of 10 mg.

 

This study found some evidence that lecithin may boost immune function: Soy lecithin supplementation alters macrophage phagocytosis and lymphocyte response to concanavalin A: a study in alloxan-induced diabetic rats:

 

Dietary soy lecithin supplementation decreases hyperlipidemia and influences lipid metabolism. Although this product is used by diabetic patients, there are no data about the effect of soy lecithin supplementation on the immune system. The addition of phosphatidylcholine, the main component of lecithin, to a culture of lymphocytes has been reported to alter their function. If phosphatidylcholine changes lymphocyte functions in vitro as previously shown, then it could also affect immune cells in vivo. In the present study, the effect of dietary soy lecithin on macrophage phagocytic capacity and on lymphocyte number in response to concanavalin A (ConA) stimulation was investigated in non-diabetic and alloxan-induced diabetic rats. Supplementation was carried out daily with 2 g kg(-1) b.w. lecithin during 7 days. After that, blood was drawn from fasting rats and peritoneal macrophages and mesenteric lymph node lymphocytes were collected to determine the phospholipid content. Plasma triacylglycerol (TAG), total and HDL cholesterol and glucose levels were also determined. Lymphocytes were stimulated by ConA. The MTT (3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-2,5-diphenyltetrazolium bromide) dye reduction method and flow cytometry were employed to evaluate lymphocyte metabolism and cell number, respectively. Soy lecithin supplementation significantly increased both macrophage phagocytic capacity (+29%) in non-diabetic rats and the lymphocyte number in diabetic rats (+92%). It is unlikely that plasma lipid levels indirectly affect immune cells, since plasma cholesterol, TAG, or phospholipid content was not modified by lecithin supplementation. In conclusion, lymphocyte and macrophage function were altered by lecithin supplementation, indicating an immunomodulatory effect of phosphatidylcholine.

 

I have Lyme, Bartonella, and Babesia. Is it possible that sunflower lecithin is boosting my immune system enough to cause a herxheimer reaction, could there be another explanation? 


Edited by muntjac, 13 February 2018 - 03:24 AM.

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#2 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:50 PM

I wonder if you're not having some sort of allergic response.

 

 

I would be surprised if any effect due to increased acetylcholine would be that immediate.

 

 

 



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#3 muntjac

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:08 PM

I eat sunflower seeds by the pound and don't have any reaction. I found another report of sunflower lecithin causing flareups in a Lyme patient:

 

I just recently started taking sunflower lecithin and I have been having a strange reaction. I get extremely bloated and all of my neurological symptoms get worse and my lymph nodes swell up after i take it. The product I am using claims to be allergen free. Do you think this is some sort of detox/herx reaction? I don't want to continue taking something that is hurting me (my stomach definitely hurts right now after taking it).



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 12:58 AM

Update: I now have extreme sensitivity to loratadine that includes mild hallucinations, memory loss, and drowsiness. I had taken it for years each spring without issue. There's obviously been some type of damage to my cholinergic system.







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