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improve motivation and concentration for former methilphenidate addict

methilphenidate; motivation; attention;

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#1 Contaminated

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 03:36 PM


Good morning , I've been diagnosed with developmentad disorder (ADHD and Asperger), with subsequently developed narcissistic personality disorder and seasonal affective disorder. One and a half years ago I began assuming Methilphenidate with great improvements in my attention and mood. Regrettably, as I turned severely addicted , arriving to assume some 300 mg pro day, I started developing tollerance and MP eventually just increased anger and restlessness. Therefore, I gave it up 2 months ago. Although I'm on therapy with fluoxetine 60/day and bupropione 300 day I experience a steady lack in my motivation and concentration. Could anyone suggest me something to improve my condition? I would need any "rush" just a steady form of stimulation. Thank you very much



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Posted 17 January 2020 - 12:42 AM

Modafinil will be good for you :")
It's slow tolerance and give you motivation without a lot of euphoria, so it's not addictive.

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#3 Contaminated

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 11:33 PM

Hi, thanks for your reply!
I used Modafinil/Armodafinil in the past; initially has worked, then, after the Methilphenidate abuse, it stopped. I tried again, few weeks ago, after several months, and I got a partial effect. Unfortunately, it lasted just for two days, then started to make me feel sleepy, without any good effect.

Others solutions?
Thanks, in advance.

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 07:39 AM

Lamotrigine and anafranil
They are not addictive at all, and will increase your motivation
Don't hate drug for its side effect try to solve it buy other drug, sometimes the side effect will go away after week of use


This low-tier strong drugs and non cross-tolerance with Methylphenidate they should work

Note: start lamotrigine with 25mg and upper every week to 200mg or you will get Steven Johnson syndrome.
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Posted 11 March 2020 - 08:03 AM

Maybe memantine, amantadine, or bromantane.  What out to make sure you don't get anxious or get the shakes since your already taking wellbutrin.  



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Posted 19 March 2020 - 02:25 AM

Lamotrigine and anafranil
They are not addictive at all, and will increase your motivation
Don't hate drug for its side effect try to solve it buy other drug, sometimes the side effect will go away after week of use


This low-tier strong drugs and non cross-tolerance with Methylphenidate they should work

Note: start lamotrigine with 25mg and upper every week to 200mg or you will get Steven Johnson syndrome.

Lamotrigine and Anafranil seems to not fit my criteria. I'm looking for something capable of give me the "rush" of Dopaminergic stimulants. Or, at least, a strong antidepressant effect, that from my experience, will be not there in the case of these two molecules.

 

 

Maybe memantine, amantadine, or bromantane.  What out to make sure you don't get anxious or get the shakes since your already taking wellbutrin.  

Already tried Memantine, and Bromantane, without any benefits. Again, I'm looking to something highly stimulant.

 

 

Actually, I would like to receive suggestions about TRI (Triple Reuptake Inhibitors), that are still under study phase.

What experimential NDRI or TRI are available? (I already tried every Nootropics, and common psychiatry therapy for depression).

Thanks in advance!


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Posted 20 May 2020 - 11:53 PM

Try the Modafinil + Uridine + Alpha GPC to potentiate/stabilize.  Following on the other questions.



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Posted 25 July 2020 - 08:51 AM

Have you ever heard of the atypical pemoline-based psychostimulant cyclazodone? Pemoline's removal from the market seem to be related to quite awful methodology and more political/economic reasons than actual health, considering only 18 people had liver failure of varying and indeterminate cause out of the hundreds of thousands of prescriptions written each year. I was medicated from age 4 with amphetamine and then methylphenidate from 6 to 18 before I quit. Cyclazdone has allowed me to live a normal life without the debilitating effects of chronic MPH use on the brain or the awful side effects and nasty personality traits traditional psychostimulants bring out. Cyclazodone is very hard to abuse, very potent by dose, very long-acting, doesn't work intranasally and only really works well orally despite anecdotes of successful sublingual use, and builds minimal tolerance compared to MPH or AMPH. Don't let that fool you though, CYCLAZODONE IS A POWERFUL STIMULANT. Some ex-stimulant addicts have called it "methadone for tweakers." You must respect the dosage; I don't recommend taking more than 60mg in a single day. Start with 30mg. Higher doses don't cause euphoria, just anxiety, although much less paranoia compared to MPH. Sub 60mg gives a good boost of motivation, focus, and wakefulness. My dad also attests it's extremely strong and extremely clean, and he was a heavy amphetamine user for almost 10 years, sometimes binging grams over the period of 3 days. You must be careful to not dose too late in the day even though it's much easier to sleep on than traditional stimulants, and make sure to get adequate sleep. Counter-intuitively, despite being easy to fall asleep on unlike MPH or AMPH, Cyclazodone is remarkably clean and very easy to accidentally stay up too long on, and it's easy to accrue a sleep debt. As long as you dose in the morning and respect the dosage, and turn your lights off and climb into bed at night, you won't have any issues. I've known several other people that have had good results with it. I'm also looking into NSI-189 and the deprenyl family as well as AMPAkines. You can also opt for N-Methyl-Cyclazodone, though some users have mentioned it has a slight serotonergic bite to it, and I have no experience with it myself. I was simply, like you, looking for a substitute for high-dose MPH.

 

Also, CDP-Choline and Aniracetam are great nootropics that work well for me, as well as Quercetin and Turmeric.


Edited by Targz, 25 July 2020 - 09:01 AM.





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