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Aging is.............


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#31 fatboy

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:37 AM

Ageing is being a pussy worrying about dying.

#32 brokenportal

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:48 AM

Along those lines, aging is being a pussy not worried about dying.

#33 zoolander

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:58 AM

Aging is........a designer label selling their clothing in target.

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#34 fatboy

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 05:32 AM

Along those lines, aging is being a pussy not worried about dying.


My pussy is much, much, much ... bigger than your pussy.

#35 brokenportal

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 05:41 AM

Or better yet, aging is being a pussy worried about living.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:16 AM

Aging is a crippling, disfiguring, degenerative, terminal condition.

It is the single greatest threat to humanity, made all the more so by the extent to which it is tolerated, accepted and even (bizarrely) endorsed.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 06:35 PM

Aging is a crippling, disfiguring, degenerative, terminal condition.

It is the single greatest threat to humanity, made all the more so by the extent to which it is tolerated, accepted and even (bizarrely) endorsed.



What he said.


Your killing me out here guys. I come to imminst, work on various projects, do some promotions and persuasion, read up on stuff, watch life extension videos, but mostly, most importantly wait of discussion on these radical topics to develop. The few of us working on projects and discussing this stuff around here cant do this by ourselves. We need you. We've been waiting for 6 years for the discussion to pick up. The time has never been better, things are happening and we need these discussions to happen along with them. Hundreds and hundreds of radical life extension pioneering minded people come and go because they dont see any radical discussion here. We need them to stay.

I created an "active topics 2" link in a topic, It wasnt the best idea, but I thought it might work, it didnt. I created a topic called something like, "3 main forums to go to at imminst" and listed 3 and then bumped the topic all the time. That didnt work. So I created the "72 team project" in which I listed 72 radical topics for people to comment on and brief reasoning next to each one. Theres been like 40 views of it with just two people joined up, one of whom I had to practically beg, and still Im sitting around the second biggest organization for the most crucial monumental cause ever undertaken in the history of humanity waiting for active discussion to develop.

Can we discuss some radical life extension topics? Get some more ideas flowing? Show potential people passing through that we're serious? Join the 72 team project today. Read the intro for it along with watching the video in it. Its supposed to be deeply inspiring.

#38 Lazarus Long

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 12:43 AM

Aging is a waste of time.

In fact it is the ultimate waste of time and not even fun.

#39 imarobot

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 01:18 AM

Aging is a crippling, disfiguring, degenerative, terminal condition.

It is the single greatest threat to humanity, made all the more so by the extent to which it is tolerated, accepted and even (bizarrely) endorsed.



What he said.


Your killing me out here guys. I come to imminst, work on various projects, do some promotions and persuasion, read up on stuff, watch life extension videos, but mostly, most importantly wait of discussion on these radical topics to develop. The few of us working on projects and discussing this stuff around here cant do this by ourselves. We need you. We've been waiting for 6 years for the discussion to pick up. The time has never been better, things are happening and we need these discussions to happen along with them. Hundreds and hundreds of radical life extension pioneering minded people come and go because they dont see any radical discussion here. We need them to stay.

I created an "active topics 2" link in a topic, It wasnt the best idea, but I thought it might work, it didnt. I created a topic called something like, "3 main forums to go to at imminst" and listed 3 and then bumped the topic all the time. That didnt work. So I created the "72 team project" in which I listed 72 radical topics for people to comment on and brief reasoning next to each one. Theres been like 40 views of it with just two people joined up, one of whom I had to practically beg, and still Im sitting around the second biggest organization for the most crucial monumental cause ever undertaken in the history of humanity waiting for active discussion to develop.

Can we discuss some radical life extension topics? Get some more ideas flowing? Show potential people passing through that we're serious? Join the 72 team project today. Read the intro for it along with watching the video in it. Its supposed to be deeply inspiring.


That's not much to ask. I'll take you up on that.

#40 OutOfThyme

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:08 AM

Aging is nature's slow, clumsy way of evolving us to grander things.

If we fail to take control, aging will intervene the only way it knows how.

#41 fatboy

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 06:44 AM

Ageing is living.

#42 Prometheus

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:14 AM

Aging is only a problem if you can't reverse it.

Also, no point stressing out about something outside of your ability to control.

Be calm. Do not be concerned. Those able, toil on your behalf.

#43 JediMasterLucia

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:26 PM

aging is ....... bad for your health

#44 brokenportal

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:27 PM

Aging is living if cancer is living.

Aging is only a problem if you can't reverse it.

Also, no point stressing out about something outside of your ability to control.

Be calm. Do not be concerned. Those able, toil on your behalf.


Advocacy, exposure and support are great ways to help control the outcome of anti aging research. Politicians that support this stuff get elected by masses of people that have been informed about this cause and the state of anti aging research. Philanthropic people give money to things like sens and other promising anti aging research when they are informed about its, SENS could use a good 100 million a year but they arent getting it yet, the NIA and others could use a lot more money to undertake a lot more of the research they would like to to this end. Exposure is helping and will help that more. Being calms is one thing but being idle is another. I dont know why your not concerned but I hope you become concerned because we need it. There are generations of smart able kids who are choosing their paths in life. We want to get them informed about anti aging science and get more kids to take this much needed path. Besides all that, for those currently working on this that toil on our behalf, we toil on their behalf to get them more money, more people working with them, more all around support.

#45 sUper GeNius

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:51 PM

A slightly different philosophical perspective:

Aging is... a privilege.

#46 brokenportal

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:06 PM

A slightly different philosophical perspective:

Aging is... a privilege.


Aging is a torture. Birth is a privelege.

#47 Vgamer1

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:32 PM

Aging is growing older and frail... for now... but...

...aging is also gaining wisdom and perspective.

Aging is experiencing more of life and all it has to offer.

Aging is what sets adults apart from children.

Aging sucks when you just get weaker and leads to death, but if aging didn't have that aspect it would be awesome, right?

#48 fatboy

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:07 AM

Living is ageing.

#49 Lazarus Long

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 02:39 AM

Aging is growing older and frail... for now... but...

...aging is also gaining wisdom and perspective.

Aging is experiencing more of life and all it has to offer.

Aging is what sets adults apart from children.


Wisdom comes from maturity, learning, experience and survival not aging.

Aging in the form of decay is a consequence of biology and time but it is not necessary in itself for achieving the desired result of growth, maturity, perspective, wisdom and enjoying life.

We certainly can tell the kids from the adults without it.

#50 Lazarus Long

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 02:41 AM

Living is ageing.


Aging is dying, to quote the old joke: "The absolute number one leading cause of death is birth".

We don't need to age to live. We need to love to live, live to learn, and learn to love but aging is not requisite to achieve that.

#51 LET ME GET EM!

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:53 PM

Aging would be identified as the process of deteriation. Aging is a well known disease that has plauged man-kind when left unchecked. Does that mean that I will never age? Certainly not! It means that aging is a deteriation process that can be reversed. For example: Our love life does not have to wax old, deteriate and fade... it can be forever renewed and young when properly checked via our rational choices, decisions and effort. As with life, being an autopoiesis cognitive living process inherently replinishing itself and aging being the accumilation of slight abberrations of of the receptor site attached to cells... one must understand that the cells in our body copies and recopies itself. The cells are equipped with receptor sites for its purpose but with those receptor sites accumulating some of the clutter within our bodies while at the same time going through the process of rejuvention it tends not to take a form of its previous state. Overtime as the process continues it loses its previous form, it deteriates...that is the aging process. If the body is cared for in a proper environment and intakes its proper nutrients this decreases the bodies deteriation process.

#52 kismet

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:12 PM

Aging is a necessary evil. Necessary for us to realise it needs to be overcome.

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 05:19 PM

Aging is like a snake in a henhouse. If hens react massively, it is killed, otherwise it kills us.

Aging is bad, anti-aging is great

#54 brokenportal

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 06:29 PM

Aging is a formidable deadly enemy that we have to launch a d-day and drop an atomic bomb on.

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 06:36 PM

Aging is holding us back as a species.

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 09:47 PM

Aging is one of the next hurtles in the evolution of humanity towards full comprehension of all of existence.

Edited by brokenportal, 13 February 2009 - 09:49 PM.


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Posted 14 February 2009 - 02:08 AM

Aging is holding us back as a species.

As a species, aging is a necessary evil. With each generation comes the opportunity to test a new evolutionary formula. Therefore, from a species perspective, aging facilitates evolution and genetic refinement, which is good.

From an individual perspective aging is a terrible shame.

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 04:01 AM

Aging is holding us back as a species.

As a species, aging is a necessary evil. With each generation comes the opportunity to test a new evolutionary formula. Therefore, from a species perspective, aging facilitates evolution and genetic refinement, which is good.


Nah, I'm not buy what you're selling. The hypothesis that aging is an adaptation has been out of fashion for a while now. Same goes for group selection theories. Same goes for theories which argue that biological evolution is still taking place to any significant degree in the human species. Of course this is all debatable, but we're just stating our opinions here, aren't we?

Yes, one could say that turnover is a good thing because it creates fresh perspectives. However I look around me and I see a societal dynamic operating according to a cellular automaton model which is profoundly encumbering. With such brutishly short life spans is it any wonder that we are so short-sighted as a species? I remember this Emerson quotation (and I may be butchering it) which goes, "Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood." What this world is sorely lacking is wisdom. And perhaps with wisdom also comes the flexibility to keep things fresh.

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 08:52 AM

@nonzero: At the risk of telling you how to suck eggs but for the benefit of the more naive readers, its about considering all the known observations and deriving a theory that encompasses and most adequately explains them. The 'aging is a stochastic process' people (i'll refer to them as the 'stochastists') have a singular observation to support their contention that aging is not programmed - that most organisms do not die from old age. Now that's not absolutely true and there are striking exemptions particularly in species that have an abrupt and accelerated aging developmental pathway.

Given that a reasonable argument to support the notion of programmed aging is beyond the scope of this post and the direction set by the topic I'll resign myself to the position that youre a stochastist and Im not. Ultimately, it does not matter which school of thought we ascribe to in terms of the evolution of aging. What matters is our collective commitment to accepting that aging is a solvable biological problem. However, the school of thought plays an important role in terms of how hypotheses for testing solutions for addressing aging are devised. Consequently, a stochastist will approach the problem from the classic SENS doctrine that aging follows no pattern and is addressed by repair. On the other hand, a non-stochastist will seek to elucidate the underpinnings behind the developmental program that drives aging and seek to alter that program. Once again, it doesn't matter who is ultimately right as, in time, it is likely that both approaches will merge. But it makes for a fascinating debate..

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 11:17 AM

aging is..... since I was born I started to decay.*

*from placebo




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