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Li Ching-Yuen Tao guy lived 256 years

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#1 Llucifer

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Posted 31 July 2020 - 09:31 PM


Li Ching-Yuen

this guy do not appeard here in this area? I'm new so here is:

 

https://en.wikipedia...i/Li_Ching-Yuen


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#2 AlephNull

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 06:41 PM

I see no reason to believe this claim.



#3 sensei

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 07:57 PM

256 does beggar the imagination.

However, academically, we should investigate.

LCY according to accounts, started harvesting, selling, and consuming herbs and berries as early as age 15. He lived as a mountain hermit which undoubtedly subjected him to caloric restriction and intermittent prolonged fasting.

The herbs included: wolfberry, schisandra fruit, ginseng, he shou wu, and others.

LCY also consumed Spring Wine, an herbal concoction that also included deer antler and lizards - possibly scorpions, steeped in high content ethanol for months.

Of interest is that upon examination, most if not all of the herbs/ berries identified are inducers of mitophagy, autophagy, mtorc1 inhibitors, anti-neoplastics etc.

Could such a regimen produce such advanced longevity? Perhaps not.

However, an ethanolic extract of polygonum multiflorum (Mr. He's dark Hair - He shou wu) induces hair regrowth, while water extract and oral consumption do not.
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Posted 05 February 2022 - 07:18 PM

Li Ching Yuen was also highly skilled in Nei Kung, which is the hidden master level of the Miracle Youth Exercise from China, Chi Kung (qigong).  It really can produce miraculous results, part of which is no doubt due to simply doing some really good exercise all life long, but only for one in a million.  I've seen one such miracle, and experienced some of it myself.  You wouldn't believe me if I told you, needing double blind studies and all ... done by 'scientists'.



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Posted 05 February 2022 - 07:36 PM

Li Ching Yuen was also highly skilled in Nei Kung, which is the hidden master level of the Miracle Youth Exercise from China, Chi Kung (qigong). It really can produce miraculous results, part of which is no doubt due to simply doing some really good exercise all life long, but only for one in a million. I've seen one such miracle, and experienced some of it myself. You wouldn't believe me if I told you, needing double blind studies and all ... done by 'scientists'.


No, all I need is a Chi-gung or Nei-kung, or Quigong - or not to leave out the Japanese Kokyu-ho practitioner that lives a documented lifespan of 120+ years.

Otherwise it's BS, too hard for people to consistently and correctly execute (and therefore useless) or both.

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 06:45 PM

Yeah it's the guy in my avatar. I have considered going on a similar diet as his consisting nothing but herbs and rice wine for a while to see how I feel. As nickname sensei mentioned it's extreme caloric restriction with possibly life-extending herbs. Perhaps I would replace the rice wine with green tea and few glasses of red wine and add some herbs from other parts of the world too but the idea is the same.

 

I do have doubts about the claim of living to 256 years old but well past 100? Very possible. What makes me doubtful is the claim that he had over 200 descendants and yet we haven't heard anything about their longevity - did he not teach his lifestyle to them or what is the case. Perhaps part of his secret was remaining somewhat of a mythological figure.


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Posted 08 March 2024 - 09:23 PM

If there is no birth certificate and no possibility of examining his body after his death, then there is almost nothing to bolster the claim that he lived to 256.


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#8 Galaxyshock

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Posted 09 March 2024 - 06:01 AM

If there is no birth certificate and no possibility of examining his body after his death, then there is almost nothing to bolster the claim that he lived to 256.

 

True, we can only speculate as there's no such information available. The longevity claim does seem more like part of folklore. But perhaps his lifestyle and advices are something worth thinking about to us longevity enthusiasts.  :)


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#9 Galaxyshock

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Posted 10 March 2024 - 12:32 PM

I'm not sure if the picture of his face is real, but If you look at his complexion, it's something one could imagine for somebody who has lived well past 100. The skin texture is actually different than those of our current verified supercentenarians too, he looks older, almost like something chopped off a tree or something:

 

https://i.ytimg.com/...xresdefault.jpg

 

Gonna have to buy myself some goji berries!



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Posted 10 March 2024 - 02:38 PM

The skin texture is actually different than those of our current verified supercentenarians too, he looks older, almost like something chopped off a tree or something:

 

Such aged face one usually never encounters, but could be the main reason for folklore assuming his age that high, while it might only be some years relative to supercentinarians.
 

 

 



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Posted 11 March 2024 - 06:02 AM

Such aged face one usually never encounters, but could be the main reason for folklore assuming his age that high, while it might only be some years relative to supercentinarians.
 

 

Good point, we can't count out the possiblity he wasn't really that old and perhaps it was his lifestyle that made his appearance look like that. No "ageless looks" in this case for sure.  :-D

 

I also wonder about the fact that there's over a billion people in China and yet nobody has tried to mimic his lifestyle and get into advanced age? Of course it might be harder in today's society to follow such disciplined diet and do the exercises.



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Posted 12 March 2024 - 02:46 PM

Ok fellas I found this 512-year-old guy who lives on nothing but water and whatever nutrients he can suck from the ground:
 
 
Looks a bit angry but maybe he doesn't want to be pictured. 

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#13 adamh

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Posted 24 March 2024 - 10:48 PM

It was a custom in some countries that a person could occupy a position and when he died, his son would take over. The son would take the name of the father and continue. If no male heir was born, then when he died, he died officially. There may have been 4 or 5 generations to make 256 years. That number is a power of 2^6


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#14 Galaxyshock

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Posted Yesterday, 05:46 AM

It was a custom in some countries that a person could occupy a position and when he died, his son would take over. The son would take the name of the father and continue. If no male heir was born, then when he died, he died officially. There may have been 4 or 5 generations to make 256 years. That number is a power of 2^6

 

Makes sense that would have happened. This kinda supports it:

 

"In 1928, a New York Times correspondent wrote that many of the old men in Li's neighborhood asserted that their grandfathers knew him when they were boys, and that he at that time was a grown man.[12]"

 

But the image of him with the rough aged skin complexion to me indicates, that perhaps the original Li-Ching Yuen did live well past 100, and also it was then easier to maintain the illusion of mythical man living well past 200 as the son taking over would be an old man himself already.

 

Interesting case for sure.


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