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Probiotics and depression/anxiety/IBS

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#1 hippocampus

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 01:04 PM


some reading:
http://www.scientifi...up-anxious-mice
http://www.sciencedi...306987704004967
http://www.sciencedi...022395608000745
http://www.nature.co...s/1602546a.html
http://www.lallemand...signs-of-stress
http://www.freepaten...06/0204485.html

in short, some strains of probiotic bacteria seem to alleviate depression and similar conditions. I did an experiment, although I wasn't depressed: I tried taking Lactobacillus acidophilus and Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis (1:1 ratio) and after a week or so I felt much better although with some brain fog. After one month I didn't felt so euphoric anymore but I also didn't have the side effects (brain fog). Now I only take my probiotics every two or three days just to finish the stack but I'm gonna experiment with other strains.
Worth mentioning: I was on antibiotics for 5 days three months before this. Anybody have similar experience?
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:04 AM

I always feel like i'm back to being a kid again every time i start taking Pro-Biotics !
And i have finally found some really good ones, but expensive, 30billions per caps, have like 8 strains of the medicinal ones,
which don't give me side-effects, they are also enteric coated, and i take them on a raw vegan diet so i don't get any bloating or gas, constipation, etc .

I really hope and know that i will only feel better by the time i'm done my bottle, there is only a month supply,
and i believe that my body should be able to sustain it's own positive flora bacteria population as desired after that without a problem !
*( I'm currently looking for some pure Gluten, and got pure FOS powder on hand to help with that ... )

Our body is the most amazing and wonderful organism, it is really really good at balancing out everything and coming to complete harmony with Nature, if only you don't put too much crap in it, most supplements included ...

All i take now on my new regime is 1 gelcap of 5:1 DHA/EPA ( because it's really hard for our body to convert to DHA from ALA from Flax Oil),
2tbspn of prime Flax Oil,
Natural Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols),
special Vitamin C powder with bio-flavanoids,
and sometimes sooometimes a teaspoon of virgin coconut oil to increase my good HDL,

and that's all you need if you also eat some greens and brown rice, and that crazy good new Cereal by Bob's Mill called Mighty Tasty Cereal, has like 5 grains in it and it's all Gluten-Free ! ( read my post on WGA and Gluten btw, still gotta boil it for 10mins )
btw, Brussel Sprouts space me the heck out(possibly partly because of Choline in it ) and give me gas,
Brocolli is a bit better or it might be Raw Celery because ( Celery, celery root, parsley, & parsnips contain toxins called psoralens, aka furocoumarin. Psoralens can cause phytophotodermatitis. That means sensitivity to sunlight, caused by contact with a plant. Handling these plants & sunbathing can lead to bad sunburn, rashes, blisters, and skin discoloration. Photosensitivity from eating these vegetables can happen, but it's very unusual. _)

then just add some chopped green onions in it, and Enjoy !

For Your HEALTH ! (;

Edited by hallucinogen, 14 September 2011 - 07:08 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:09 AM

some reading:
http://www.scientifi...up-anxious-mice
http://www.sciencedi...306987704004967
http://www.sciencedi...022395608000745
http://www.nature.co...s/1602546a.html
http://www.lallemand...signs-of-stress
http://www.freepaten...06/0204485.html

in short, some strains of probiotic bacteria seem to alleviate depression and similar conditions. I did an experiment, although I wasn't depressed: I tried taking Lactobacillus acidophilus and Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis (1:1 ratio) and after a week or so I felt much better although with some brain fog. After one month I didn't felt so euphoric anymore but I also didn't have the side effects (brain fog). Now I only take my probiotics every two or three days just to finish the stack but I'm gonna experiment with other strains.
Worth mentioning: I was on antibiotics for 5 days three months before this. Anybody have similar experience?


Which Brands have you tried/using btw ?

#4 hippocampus

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 09:05 AM

I've used some local brand Linex http://www.lek.si/en...s-releases/571/
but I'm going to experiment with NOW Gr8-Dophilus.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:40 AM

I've used some local brand Linex http://www.lek.si/en...s-releases/571/

These contain Chr. Hansen strains.

but I'm going to experiment with NOW Gr8-Dophilus.

I believe these contain Danisco FloraFIT strains as some old info on this product says it contains strains from Rhodia, from which a part was acquired by Danisco 7 years ago.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 12:39 PM

and what does this mean? is there much difference in different strains?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:04 PM

I haven't read this thread as I don't have time but I just want to say that since starting probiotics I have nothing but IBS! And I don't even suffer with IBS normally. I have tried two or three different brands (inc yakult). Drinks and yoghurts have both been experiemented with.

I think if something ain't broke don't fix it. So I've given them up and since returning to what I normally eat (with zero probiotics) I am doing well again.

I introduced them initially because I was swayed by the health hype.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:33 PM

Thorsten, was there FOS in the probiotics you tried? These cause problems for a lot of people. The value of a healthy gut isn't hype. That's real. The value of any given supplement in helping you to obtain a healthy gut may well be susceptible to hype, or not.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:08 PM

@Thorsten, what's your experience with antibiotics?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:33 PM

Not much really I have just experimented with stuff I bought at the supermarket. Yakult wasn't too bad but the pribiotic yoghurts upset my insides quite a bit. This is just my own experience though.

@Niner:

Indeed, I can't knock probiotics I'm just a bit dissapointed with my own results thus far. I don't know the particular bacteria but I suppose I could research this some more. I am aware of some supplements that have recieved good kudos from people on here recently.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:56 PM

and what does this mean? is there much difference in different strains?

Absolutely. You can't assume if one strain from one species does have a certain effect, another strain from the same species can do the same.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:26 PM

Not much really I have just experimented with stuff I bought at the supermarket. Yakult wasn't too bad but the pribiotic yoghurts upset my insides quite a bit. This is just my own experience though.


I asked what's your experience with ANTIbiotics? :)

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 02:34 PM

Hardly ever had to use them, maybe two or three times during my life..Why do you ask?

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 03:08 PM

Maybe people who had been on antibiotics recently (as I had) react on probiotics differently.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 06:39 PM

Oh OK. I'm not done with probiotics yet though, it might take a bit of experimenting and further research before I can draw any conclusions for myself.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:47 PM

So what are some good probiotics to take? Bang for the buck, preferably.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 05:21 AM

I've tried many different probiotics including well-recognized strains like Culturelle and they seem to do a whole lot of nothing for me.





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