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#1 kurdishfella

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 02:54 PM


hey I wanna get into fasting. I read that most health problems are caused by eating too much our bodies are getting too much protein so it starts to create things with all the excess protein IE tumors etc..

I have never fasted before but how long would I need to fast? Do you just do it once a month for a choosen period of time(how long usually?)? I was thinking 1 meal for every 3 days would that be enough for me to feel better? or 5 days fasting 2 days eating on saturday and sunday

 

Is it safe to skip food and just drink water for 5 days and only eat on saturday and sunday? I was thinking of doing this my whole life so I can keep the benefits. dont eat anything on monday to friday and when saturday/sunday comes I can eat and drink whatever . Has anyone done this? If you think about it thats probably how humans in the old times ate that was their routine probably.


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#2 sthira

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 06:45 PM

Start humbly. Ease the way into prolonged fasting. It's a powerful practice, it's not for everyone, and jumping right into the deep end of the pool (wcgw, imma fast for five days, exclaimation point) can be bad for both you and society.

Particularly be cautious if you have mental instabilities (and who doesn't, no judgement here) like anxiety, depression, eating disorders...

By "start humbly," I mean try skipping meals for a few weeks -- eat less, know what you're eating and drinking, cover RDA basics, document and become conscious. See how that goes for you, and take notes.

If you're currently on any pharmaceuticals: don't fast. Don't fast without your prescribing doctor's head nod, and even with their eye-rolling approval: slow down.
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#3 Andey

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:43 AM

I would advise starting fasting without hard set expectation on duration. Like 1 day is ok, 2 is ok and up to 5. 

Electrolyte balance is usually a main cause of discomfort while fasting, the body starts to struggle to maintain orthostatic homeostasis leading to light headiness, weakened adrenals etc.   Drink some salty water (and potassium pills) during fast and it will resolve majority of issues.

Overall it's not a big deal. Some people go cold turkey for a month ( which is unwise). Just listen to your body and withdraw if something went wrong. Next time go day further. Life is not a sprint, its a marathon. 

 


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Posted 22 July 2018 - 02:18 AM

>>hey I wanna get into fasting. I read that most health problems are caused by eating too much our bodies are getting too much protein so it starts to create things with all the excess protein IE tumors etc..

 

Not at all clear that "most health problems" are caused by "getting too much protein," and that's a pretty 1970s idea. But I don't want to get into that debate right now.

 

I'd encourage everyone who doesn't have major contraindications to try fasting, but here are a few points.

 

1) The first two days are the hardest. This is because the body is doing major readjustments--the biggest one is switching to relying on fat as the main fuel source. (People on low-carb diets are always using fat as their main fuel source, so people who eat low-carb can usually move into a fast without much adaptation. If you are a high-carb, low-fat person, these two days will likely make your brain sluggish, and you may get the 'low-carb flu.')

 

2) Hunger usually falls sharply by the third day. 72 hours is the magic time for fasting. Autophagy gets rolling, eliminating sick cells. The immune system resets. I don't bother fasting for less than 72 hours. The first 48 are the hard part, so why do the hard part and then stop?

 

3) Past 72 hours, fasting is a breeze...unless you get ravenously hungry. Getting really really hungry on Day 4 or 7 or whatever is a good signal to break your fast. As Andey said in the post above, "listen to your body." But also be aware your body will lie to you for the first 48 hours!

 

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A few tips:

 

If you routinely drink alcohol, taper down before you start a fast.

 

If you are addicted to caffeine, consider continuing to drink caffeine during the fast. I'm not caffeine-addicted, but I've fasted with people who are, and withdrawal makes things really unpleasant. And, despite all the research they've done trying to show that caffeine is The Devil, it actually seems to be beneficial or, at worst, neutral.

 

If you usually eat a high-carb diet, the fast will be easier if you eat low-carb for a few days first. The metabolic state--and all the relevant enzyme supplies--in fasting are very similar to low-carb dieting. The discomfort some people get from fasting is from switching from glucose/sugar as the main fuel to fat/ketones.

 

As Andey mentions, electrolytes are very important. Good to keep some potassium & magnesium supplements on hand.

 

This ain't rocket science. People have been fasting for thousands of years. And I have fasted occasionally since I was 12 (I'm now 64).

 

Oh, and make sure you have a lot to do. If you aren't eating food, procuring food, preparing food, and cleaning up after food, there are a whole lot more hours in the day!


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#5 sthira

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 03:07 AM

...And I have fasted occasionally since I was 12 (I'm now 64).


Thanks for all the tips! Helpful stuff. Since you've been fasting for so many years do you feel like it's done anything to retard the aging process?

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 03:30 AM

I have no idea, to be honest.

 

That said, every time I interact with the medical profession, they are surprised that I'm 64 and not on any ongoing medications.

 

But I think this says more about the US medical establishment than about me!


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#7 Mind

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 11:18 AM

Depending upon the progress of rejuvenation technology, I might start fasting a bit more. Over the last couple of years I have started short-term fasting. Eat for about 4 to 5 hours in the day, then fast for 19 to 20 hours. Depending upon who you talk to, some minor health benefits start to accrue after anywhere from 12 to 18 hours of fasting.

 

The most I have done is about 24 hours.

 

I would do more, but it is difficult, because I am active. I do a lot of gardening and landscaping in my backyard. I work out. Jog. Swim. Things like that. You can't haul around 50 to 100 lb boulders in your backyard for a few hours a day while on a fast. Ain't gonna happen.

 

Also, my goal in life extension advocacy is to be able to enjoy things in life, like eating (among many other things of course). As more sophisticated and effective repair tech becomes available and affordable, I will eat more delicious food and enjoy life. That is the point.

 

If rejuvenation therapies are delayed significantly, then I will fast more, because it is one of the best proven current methods of slowing down the aging process.


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#8 Andey

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 12:18 PM

Depending upon the progress of rejuvenation technology, I might start fasting a bit more. Over the last couple of years I have started short-term fasting. Eat for about 4 to 5 hours in the day, then fast for 19 to 20 hours. Depending upon who you talk to, some minor health benefits start to accrue after anywhere from 12 to 18 hours of fasting.

 

The most I have done is about 24 hours.

 

 

  Technically its not fasting but time restricted eating. It's isocaloric and depending on food it could be digested fully up to 30hours after a meal. 

I am not saying that its not beneficial, its just not fasting per se.

Everything that 48 hours and more is fasting.


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