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#61 tolerant

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 09:19 PM

Would this flashlight work for the protocol?

 

I'm sorry for being repetitive, but could someone who, unlike myself, understands LED, lumens, watts, and nanometers, coherent/incoherent please give the green light (no pun intended) to my choice of flashlight, and if not, then why?

 

Also, Turnbuckle, you wrote in your original post [emphasis mine]:

 

On the first day of fasting I used 4 red LED flashlights to irradiate my fatty areas each time I began to feel hungry.

 

How did you use four at once? Wouldn't you need four arms? Is one flashlight enough?


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:31 AM

I'm sorry for being repetitive, but could someone who, unlike myself, understands LED, lumens, watts, and nanometers, coherent/incoherent please give the green light (no pun intended) to my choice of flashlight, and if not, then why?

 

Also, Turnbuckle, you wrote in your original post [emphasis mine]:

On the first day of fasting I used 4 red LED flashlights to irradiate my fatty areas each time I began to feel hungry.

How did you use four at once? Wouldn't you need four arms? Is one flashlight enough?

 

OK, I think I get it now -- the flashlights you used are mini flashlights, so you could probably hold them all easily in one hand.

 

But I still ask that someone who understands technical specifications required approves the flashlight I found on my domestic eBay. I have already ordered the Atkins bars, carnitine, stearic acid and sulforaphane. All I need is the correct flashlight. Please.

 

Here's the link again: https://www.ebay.com...IwAAOSwdfZbF6uK


Edited by tolerant, 19 September 2018 - 02:42 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 04:27 AM

I don't remember the exact details, but you want lumens for output and it has to be in the right spectrum of red. Any red might work if there's enough of it, but iirc, 650nm are the ideal. Infrared can also be of benefit. 



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Posted 19 September 2018 - 05:41 AM

I don't remember the exact details, but you want lumens for output and it has to be in the right spectrum of red. Any red might work if there's enough of it, but iirc, 650nm are the ideal. Infrared can also be of benefit. 

 

So, with respect to output, the more lumens, the better? I just realised I can find the right wavelength if I enter it as a search item on eBay. But I only get tiny laser pointers with 650 nm. Which makes me want to get one of the flashlights the OP and the other person on here had success with.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 01:14 PM

So, with respect to output, the more lumens, the better? I just realised I can find the right wavelength if I enter it as a search item on eBay. But I only get tiny laser pointers with 650 nm. Which makes me want to get one of the flashlights the OP and the other person on here had success with.

 

I wouldn't say "the more lumens, the better". Light is energy and you don't want to 'bake' your cells. Esp. as your eyes don't 'see' all light frequencies the same. As you can notice, humans don't register deep red well. You could over do it without noticing much.

 

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Posted 21 September 2018 - 09:18 PM

While people are still awake in the US, can I please ask, if I have sulforaphane on hand, but not stearic acid, what is a good dose to take during the first two days to kick-start the process?



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Posted 11 May 2019 - 04:19 AM

Hi Turnbuckle and others, 

 

In your experience, does this protocol have any sort of localized fat loss effect on a specific area?

 

My reasoning is that since red light stimulates release of triglycerides from fat cells, we could shine the red light on trouble areas and lose more weight from those specific areas. 

 

 



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 02:57 AM

Anyone else tried this? It sounds way too good to be true but so does a lot of cutting edge biohacking stuff and on the other hand I've read tons of incredible reports about red light, seems very promising overall!

 

I have a massive appetite all the time these days and seem to be caught in a terrible dilemma between gaining a pound or two a week so that I can not feel hungry and unfocused all the time and sleep decently, or maintaining my weight but feeling hungry and unfocused all the time and waking up after 6 - 7 hours of sleep with my stomach growling and other such issues.

 

I've tried suppressing my appetite with supplements but that tends to just give me a bad rebound effect where I have to eat more later or I feel even worse. I know I'm getting into insulin resistance since diabetes runs in my family and am pretty sure I'm dealing with some bad leptin resistance as well. I'd really love to figure out a way to get back to a reasonable level of appetite and start losing some of the weight I've put on lately without feeling terrible all the time.

 

For anyone that has tried using red light in this manner, I have a few questions:

 

1) do y'all have any issues with rebound weight gain once you stopped using the red light? How did you feel when you stopped using it overall? I know that a lot of diets and supplements will cause that exact issue because they make the brain think the body is starving so you get hungrier and hungrier over time until you break and eat to make up for the deficit.

 

2) How was your sleep? Would you wake up in the middle of the night and have to use the red light to kill your hunger? I'm so tired of my hunger waking me up and preventing me from getting the 8 hours of sleep I need, I can't keep dealing with it.

 

3) Do you recommend using red light for weight loss overall, and is it as incredible as it sounds from these posts from on it?



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 04:32 AM

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:43 AM

Hmm well that's a nice anecdote however Ray Peat thinks metformin may be dangerous and I tend to subscribe to his ideas (not all of them, but many of them are on the right track). https://raypeatforum...s-lactate.3896/

 

I'm still hoping someone can answer my question about whether any weight lost will return once one stops using red light and whether it is actually a sustainable way to lose weight in the long run.



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Posted Today, 04:54 PM

Interested in this "red light as releaser of energy from fat cells" theory from Turnbuckle but had rummage in drawers rather than ordering any red flash lights. From prior experiments I have a Beurer infrared heat lamp ... it comes with a Philips PAR38E 150W lamp. What's great about this lamp is that it includes an information sheet from Philips (http://www.infraphil...phil-PAR38E.pdf) that clearly indicates which nm wavelength best penetrates to the subcutaneous tissue layer, it is just about 1000nm as per this little data graph:

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The lamp itself is created to peak output at 1000nm so I am giving this a try at moment: 1 minute on tummy fat when hungry to test over a couple of days, no obvious feeling of satiation observed on first few goes but will try in fasted (+15hrs) state and report back here.



#72 Turnbuckle

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Posted Today, 06:36 PM

It's more than just penetration. See this post and the discussion above it for links to various papers. Specific frequencies have an outsized effect due at least in part to absorption by mitochondrial enzymes.

 

The aim of the present work is to analyze available action spectra for various biological responses of HeLa cells irradiated with monochromatic light of 580–860 nm....Results: The peak positions are between 613.5 and 623.5 nm (in one spectrum, at 606 nm), in the red maximum. The far-red maximum has exact peak positions between 667.5 and 683.7 nm in different spectra. Two near infrared maxima have peak positions in the range 750.7–772.3 nm and 812.5–846.0 nm, respectively. Conclusions: In the wavelength range important for phototherapy (600–860 nm), there are four “active” regions, but peak positions are not exactly the same for all spectra. 

 

 







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