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[Yuri]

Hi, I'm 52 and started to use peptides (ipamorelin + CJC 1295 prolonged with DAC + epitalon) for anti aging purposes. The result was good. I did 2 months ipamorelin (1 injection per day), 4 weeks of CJC (1 injection per week) and 2 months epitalon.

 

I have had the following positive results

 

1. Increase of energy; enhancement of mood

2. Increase of sexual function

3. Increase of clarity of mind 

4. Before this course my EEG showed excess of theta and not enough alpha brain waves; now it's normal

5. <y phisycal sstrenth increased though just slightly

 

I can't find recommendations for the cycling for anti aging purposes (for epitalon it's 2 courses per year, so the question is about peptides to raise HGH). For anti aging, I guess, it should be taken regularly; I'm thinking to have 1 month break and then go 1 month on, 1 month off. 

 

Also I'm thinking of trying ipamorelin solo, as I read that too much of CJC 1295 prolonged (with DAC) can lead to supressing of my pituatiry gland

 

Any suggestions or thoughts? 

 

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P.S. I did blood tests before and after the course. IGF-1 went up to 195 which is close to maximum for my age (lab reference is 50 - 209), but HGH increased just slightly from 0.13 to 0.27 (lab reference 0.06 to 3.0)

[John250]

It’s normal for HGH serum to not increase much. Unless your time the blood test perfectly for the peptides to pick that’s the only way it will increase HGH serum. Igf is what’s most important to watch for anyway. ipa is very weak on its own but holds the least side effects. It definitely should be used with a ghrh like cjc. I don’t know much at all about Epitalon never tried it.

Another good idea when using peptides to use a somatostatin inhibitor. Low dose huperzineA works well. Your body will limit the production of IGF you produce do to somatostatin So that’s a good way to get around it.

Edited by John250, 22 July 2018 - 09:20 PM.

[Yuri]

Another good idea when using peptides to use a somatostatin inhibitor. Low dose huperzineA works well. Your body will limit the production of IGF you produce do to somatostatin So that’s a good way to get around it.

 

Thanks for the answer, John

 

What's the low dosage of Huperzine A? And how often?

 

And is the effect of HuperzineA similar to the effect of Alpha GPC?

[John250]

Thanks for the answer, John

What's the low dosage of Huperzine A? And how often?

And is the effect of HuperzineA similar to the effect of Alpha GPC?

Somewhat similar as it will raise acetylcholine. It has a very long half life so I’d say a low-dose like 50mcg/day should suffice.

You can use any somatostatin inhibitor. Horny goat weed is one. Google somatostatin inhibitors there are a lot.

Edited by John250, 23 July 2018 - 08:26 PM.

[Rocket]

Glad you are doing it right and getting bloods. My last run of cjc with dac gave ZERO increase in IGF1, it was bunk . It is IGF1 that counts. Strange that dac is supposed to give continually secreting hgh and it didn't show up in the bloodwork.

What dose dac???

[John250]

Yes it is IGF-I. If you did not combine it with a GHRP IGF levels will really increase that much. Even a microdose of MK 677 in conjunction with CJC Dac would have drastically increased your IGF levels

Edited by John250, 24 July 2018 - 05:11 AM.

[Yuri]

What dose dac???

 

I injected CJC 1295 with DAC twice a week (not once a week as I wrote in my 1st post). Each time 1,000 mkg

 

Also don't forget I did it with Ipamorelin. Haven't tried CJC 1295 with DAC solo

Edited by Yuri, 24 July 2018 - 12:52 PM.

[Rocket]

Yes it is IGF-I. If you did not combine it with a GHRP IGF levels will really increase that much. Even a microdose of MK 677 in conjunction with CJC Dac would have drastically increased your IGF levels

 

My mouse ran both MK and DAC and got ZERO results in the blood work. Both from reputable (well known) companies. Last time mouse ran DAC by itself saw a very significant increase in IGF1.

[John250]

My mouse ran both MK and DAC and got ZERO results in the blood work. Both from reputable (well known) companies. Last time mouse ran DAC by itself saw a very significant increase in IGF1.

Did you have your baseline levels checked? Last DAC run was same supplier? When I use just MK 677 my IGF went up almost 100 points and when I added DAC I got retested a month later and IGF did not increase but it definitely did something because I was much fuller and leaner. IGF blood work is weird. Lots of guys on professional muscle do a GH serum test to test new brands of HGH and some guys will literally score 400 to 500% higher than others it’s the exact same stuff. My theory is it’s all about the liver. IGF conversion is in the liver. The healthier your liver the higher the levels will be. I remember when I was taking Depakote my igf was much lower.

Edited by John250, 24 July 2018 - 10:41 PM.

[Rocket]

Did you have your baseline levels checked? Last DAC run was same supplier? When I use just MK 677 my IGF went up almost 100 points and when I added DAC I got retested a month later and IGF did not increase but it definitely did something because I was much fuller and leaner. IGF blood work is weird. Lots of guys on professional muscle do a GH serum test to test new brands of HGH and some guys will literally score 400 to 500% higher than others it’s the exact same stuff. My theory is it’s all about the liver. IGF conversion is in the liver. The healthier your liver the higher the levels will be. I remember when I was taking Depakote my igf was much lower.

Yes of course I had pre-bloodwork. That's how I know there was exactly zero change from baseline while using 5mg DAC and the usual daily dose of mk677. This was for 5 weeks.

Last time I ran just DAC for 5 weeks, I got a 50% increase in IGF1. Same supplier.

As for liver, I run tudca daily and my liver values are spot on perfect.

With peptides, it is buyer beware, even with the sponsor whose banner appears all the time on this site.

The only thing that ever works as promised no matter whom the supplier is, is melanotan! Its a little odd that everyone's melanotan, which is glaringly visually obvious, is the ONLY peptide you can buy from anyone and it works. The stuff that requires bloodwork is always hit and miss. Funny, eh!?

Edited by Rocket, 25 July 2018 - 12:52 AM.