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GREY HAIR, HELP REVERSE IT!?

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#1 GABAergic

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 07:07 AM


anything to stop grey hair, and whats the science behind it? is it oxidation hence antioxidants might help? any clues??



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Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:30 PM

Don't know about reversing gray hair, but I've had remarkable luck.  Hair still full brown (and mostly still there) at 62 years of age.  

 

I've been big on Iron Homeostasis for several decades now, donating blood to keep stored iron low, and taking nature's chelators (Quercetin, Curcumin & IP6).  

 

Iron is the ultimate pro-oxidant, & unnatural accumulations in middle age and beyond are common.  

 

There is already evidence of iron accumulation affecting oxidative stress levels in skin.  Individuals with high iron are known to tan more deeply and easily due to UV light from the sun reacting with even small amounts of iron in the skin.  Hemochromatosis used to be called "bronze diabetes", as unusual bronzing of the skin (and diabetes) were so commonly seen in these patients.  

 

Could dermal iron levels affect dermal oxidative stress in other ways?  I don't have any hard data on this, but it certainly sounds logical.  

 

Ferritin is a cheap blood lab, and should flag iron accumulation if it is present.  The upper limits for the normal range are set quite high by most labs (200-300 or more), but this is the threshold for clinical iron overload, and not "optimal" iron homeostasis.  Anything over 100, & you're not only fully replete with iron, but are storing excess iron in tissues.  

 

Certain metabolic conditions (acidosis from sleep apnea and/or xanthine oxidase elevation) can release iron from its protective protein shell (ferritin), resulting in an increase in free/labile iron, which is highly reactive.  

 

I also consume coffee daily, as the caffeine in coffee is a xanthine, which seems to help lower xanthine oxidase activity.  You'd think dietary xanthines might up-regulate xanthine oxidase, but apparently it does not; but perhaps it gives xanthine oxidase something else to work on besides liberating iron from ferritin.  

 

I truly believe my efforts on maintaining low iron has been a fountain of youth for me.  I've never lived a particularly healthy lifestyle (red meat, alcohol & even tobacco), yet at 62, I have no chronic illness, use no pharmaceuticals and enjoy remarkably good health.  I've posted the evidence on "Ferrotoxic Disease" here: 

 

https://www.longecit...isease-omnibus/

 

Not a whole lot of info on the gray hair issue, but if oxidative stress contributes to this (gray hair), then iron reduction should help.  

 

Interestingly, copper is supposed to be an important component of hair color and there is some evidence copper and iron interact. Iron elevations affecting copper physiology and vice versa.  Copper is NOT something I'd ever consider supplementing, as most folks have copper elevation too.  If you've got copper plumbing in your home, you've already got plenty of copper! 

 

Copper is also a highly reactive transition metal, which can contribute to oxidative stress, much like iron does.  Copper / Iron ratios are an important part of mineral homeostasis, and most who study this are of the opinion more is not better when it comes to either of these reactive metals.  Lower iron may however allow copper to function more normally.  

 

Best of Luck, & hope you find your own fountain of youth.  


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#3 baccheion

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:19 PM

Catalase, as hydrogen peroxide bleaches/grays hair. Vitamin D, copper, and other vitamins/minerals.

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:35 PM

Catalase, as hydrogen peroxide bleaches/grays hair. 

 

but have you tried it? did it work? 

 

have yet to see someone who either ate catalase caps or applied it somehow and reversed gray hair. 


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 07:53 AM

Catalase, as hydrogen peroxide bleaches/grays hair. Vitamin D, copper, and other vitamins/minerals.

 

I'm skeptical of the benefits of Catalase supplementation. As an enzyme, I would be surprised if much of it survived past the stomach and upper intestines.

 

In the body, naturally made Catalase requires Selenium. Low Selenium is a chronic problem in many parts of the world. Supplementing there seems like a good place to start.

 

In one of the C60 threads, IIRC, at least one person reported some reversal of gray hair.

 

Beyond that, I suspect Zinc may also play a role. However, I'm sure a lot of time, money and energy has been put into gray hair, and no easy fixes have been found yet, AFAIK.


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#6 baccheion

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 03:28 PM

I'm skeptical of the benefits of Catalase supplementation. As an enzyme, I would be surprised if much of it survived past the stomach and upper intestines.

In the body, naturally made Catalase requires Selenium. Low Selenium is a chronic problem in many parts of the world. Supplementing there seems like a good place to start.

In one of the C60 threads, IIRC, at least one person reported some reversal of gray hair.

Beyond that, I suspect Zinc may also play a role. However, I'm sure a lot of time, money and energy has been put into gray hair, and no easy fixes have been found yet, AFAIK.

I wasn't suggesting supplementing directly.

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#7 GABAergic

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 05:23 AM

I'm skeptical of the benefits of Catalase supplementation. As an enzyme, I would be surprised if much of it survived past the stomach and upper intestines.

 

In the body, naturally made Catalase requires Selenium. Low Selenium is a chronic problem in many parts of the world. Supplementing there seems like a good place to start.

 

In one of the C60 threads, IIRC, at least one person reported some reversal of gray hair.

 

Beyond that, I suspect Zinc may also play a role. However, I'm sure a lot of time, money and energy has been put into gray hair, and no easy fixes have been found yet, AFAIK.

 

im thinking of trying c60 but its been years and its still not sold as regulated supplement and not some third party claiming to be real c60 so i have been waiting to this day.

about zinc, i probably took a bit too much of it for way too long because i became addicted to porn and sex in general and its killing me. people should proceed with caution taking zinc. im pretty certain losing semen which contains life elements might add up to greying of hair :s


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