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#1 Redbulloid

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 11:51 AM


Hello all,

 

Second time I am starting C60 and for the second time I am getting issue with muscles. Both cases happened in 3-4 days of usage. First time it was myositis at the back and now it is inflammation (feels similar to myositis) of some small muscle on pelvis. I am practicing martial arts all the time, but never had this. Might be coincidence, but unlikely. There was no specific trauma related to this. It took about 3 month for myositis to go away. 

 

Any thought on this? Did anyone was practicing sports on C60 or does anyone know athletes who had such issues?

 

 



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Posted 03 April 2019 - 11:59 AM

Did you mix your own?  And if so, what C60 did you use and how did you mix it and store it?  If you bought a premixed commercial product, who manufactured it?


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:01 PM

I have noticed that I can push myself a lot harder in the gym when I take c60, so might just because u actually train a lot harder on c60 which then leads to a inflammation?

I know other people say they can push themselves a lot harder as well...


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#4 Redbulloid

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:44 PM

Did you mix your own?  And if so, what C60 did you use and how did you mix it and store it?  If you bought a premixed commercial product, who manufactured it?

Both commercial. First one - Buckylabs, second - SES. Storage is as per instructions.


I have noticed that I can push myself a lot harder in the gym when I take c60, so might just because u actually train a lot harder on c60 which then leads to a inflammation?

I know other people say they can push themselves a lot harder as well...

Maybe. Thanks. For me it also increased performance and recovery. Training was average though. Not too hard.



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Posted 03 April 2019 - 06:02 PM

Who knows for sure. There has never been a double blind human study of C60oo supplementation. It is kind-of the "wild west".


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:57 PM

During the early days of use reported here on Longecity, there was talk of injuries. Sample with other posts below it in the thread. There have been other comments, but the thread should give an idea.

 

https://www.longecit...o-pain-no-gain/

 

 

I have had the same result, and have been taking C60 for some months now.

 

However, if you are lifting heavy weights, the lack of a burn is problematic, as it is a warning signal not to over-exert yourself.

 

I got myself into trouble, as I found I could do high reps of very heavy weights, with no burn.....I just reached a point where I could no longer lift the weight.....but no pain.........and I really enjoyed this...and ended up with an irritated tendon in my arm, which took over 9 months to get back to normal.

 

I now do much shorter sets.

 

I did not notice C60 impacting negatively on muscle growth.

 

 

 

 


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#7 Redbulloid

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 09:44 AM

Who knows for sure. There has never been a double blind human study of C60oo supplementation. It is kind-of the "wild west".

I see that guys in Kiyv in Taras Schevchenko University are performing a lot of human-based studies. Maybe someone knows them and can ask for studies that community needs? I am in Kiyv often and can help with funding. It is way less regulation in Ukraine.

 

Sample study with list of names - https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/29940354

 

My message may be bit off-topic, sorry )



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:33 PM

Given the small affected area in the OP and the long time it took for it to heal, this may be a tendon/ligament injury. This has been common with C60 use as C60 appears to increase muscle output while doing little to strengthen tendons and ligaments.


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:47 PM

Given the small affected area in the OP and the long time it took for it to heal, this may be a tendon/ligament injury. This has been common with C60 use as C60 appears to increase muscle output while doing little to strengthen tendons and ligaments.

BTW are you still using C60, even occasionally Turnbuckle? 



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 01:07 PM

BTW are you still using C60, even occasionally Turnbuckle? 

 

 

Yes, I use it once every 2-4 weeks. And if you use it, I strongly suggest you use it responsibly. C60 appears to stimulate stem cells, and if you use it without precautions, you could use them up. Use it correctly, however, and you can increase your stem cell pools. See the following thread--

 

https://www.longecit...newal-with-c60/



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 03:28 PM

C60 appears to stimulate stem cells, and if you use it without precautions, you could use them up. 

Hmm any anecdotal reports of this? Some people have guzzled C60OO in huge amounts, some of them daily, at least for a period. 



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 05:35 PM

Hmm any anecdotal reports of this? Some people have guzzled C60OO in huge amounts, some of them daily, at least for a period. 

 

A number have seen fading of results, as though stem cells are being used up. And even though asymmetric division would suggest that stem cells are not used up, this is simply not the case. The right way to use C60 is with a state of mito fusion. Stearic acid forces mitochondria into fusion, but you can't just chew it up, as one person thought. As a result, C60 appeared to age him. See this post -- https://www.longecit...ndpost&p=862225


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#13 Redbulloid

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 06:54 PM

Yes, I use it once every 2-4 weeks. And if you use it, I strongly suggest you use it responsibly. C60 appears to stimulate stem cells, and if you use it without precautions, you could use them up. Use it correctly, however, and you can increase your stem cell pools. See the following thread--

 

https://www.longecit...newal-with-c60/

Turnbuckle, do you think stearic acid should be 'food grade' or it does not matter? I bought some for myself, but it says it is for usage in cosmetics.


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Posted 05 April 2019 - 01:13 AM

Another c60 Fusion "supplement": Sulforaphane.

 

c60 apparently is not only a mitochondrial ROS scavenger as MitoQ, it also stimulates stem cells.



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Posted 24 April 2019 - 11:06 PM

A number have seen fading of results, as though stem cells are being used up. And even though asymmetric division would suggest that stem cells are not used up, this is simply not the case. The right way to use C60 is with a state of mito fusion. Stearic acid forces mitochondria into fusion, but you can't just chew it up, as one person thought. As a result, C60 appeared to age him. See this post -- https://www.longecit...ndpost&p=862225

 

That would seem to be something of an outlier, its tough to say that it aged him, he just apeared rather sick on it and such effects have rarely been reported. A lot of peope appear to have ok on large doses over large periods of time, I've certainly not noticed a Dorian Grey effect despite high doses periods (I have had considerable breaks). That said, with your caution in mind, I wouldn't take high doses of c60, without minding stem-cell repletion.

 

Would you be able to explain the reason why asymmetric division doesn't maintain the stem cell pool, it is something that is as you reason confusing. In addition one other curiosity is the need for c60 in your stem cell renewal protocol (apart from expediency) - if I took stearic acid regularly for months, wouldn't the stem cell pool just keep growing and the body slowly adapt to this bounty of stem cells and regenerate, just more slowly? I'm out of c60 currently, but am thinking of using stearic acid + allicin having just taken a high dose of fisetin.  

 

Thanks.


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