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#1 Andersen

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:59 AM


what are your opinions on this diet? fatty cuts of meat and organ meats


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#2 Oakman

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:28 PM

I cut red meat at age 29, some 40 years ago. I feel that it has helped my health greatly over the long haul since. I wish I could thank the person who turned my to a flexitarian lifestyle back then. So my opinion is - just don't do it.



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#3 pamojja

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 05:14 PM

I cut red meat at age 29, some 40 years ago.

 

I became low fat vegetarian at age 10, at age 41 I suffered a walking-disabilty from PAD (80% stenosis at abdominal aorta), and since then added loads of fats, eggs and fish back in. Much later some occational beef. And experienced remission from the disabilty considered non-reversible by conventional medicine.

 

With my experience I strongly believe there is just no one-size-fits-all with diet. One framework to explain such differences in bio-chemical individuality would be different autonomous-nervous system metabolic types, used for example by the late pancreatic cancer doc Nickolas Gonzales (the following notes taken from an interview):

 

 Dominant sympathetic types: Typ ‘A’ personalities, disciplined; mostly solid cancers; do good on much plant based foods: fruits, vegies, seeds, grains, nuts, plant based oils: hemp, flax; Vitamin B1, B2, B3, 8:1 ratio magnesium to calcium, high vitamin C & D; but not on much meat protein, no b12, no choline, no B5, no zinc, no selenium, no fish oil. Yes to beta Carotene, chromium, folic acid, riboflavin, thiamin,& niacin

Parasympathetic: types are rather creative with unconventional ‘formal’ education; mostly blood-based cancers; do good on lots of meat and a ketogenic diet, saturated fats, fats from fish oils, Calcium 10-15 ratio to magnesium (high magnesium causes depression), Vitamin B12, B5, Choline; not as good on grains or seed. Need zinc & selenium, not good with other large Vitamin B doses.

Mixed or balanced types: suffer rather from allergies and fatigue.

 

I do really well an all nutrients at higher doses supplemented, and indeed seem to be a mixed type too (=flexitarian).

 

Guess ab all carnivore diet could be a real life-safer, for example with sensitivity to plant-lectins.


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#4 Knowledge Is Powre

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 02:02 AM

Carnivore seems to be the way to go for a lot of people. Part because there is so much more readily absorbed nutrition in meat and also it's great as an elimination diet. Plants have so many anti-nutrients that your body is likely being afflicted by some of your dietary choices. Not to mention the drastic reduction in carbs when going carnivore. 

 

I've found it to be most successful when eating raw as much as possible, OMAD, an including dairy and eggs. Everything pastured grass fed, organic, no grains/soy as much as possible. 

 

I was wondering when this thread would pop up on longecity, a lot of the diet advice in the past seems to be to stay away from meat, especially over cooked, as much as possible. 

 

For someone just getting started look into Dr Paul Saladino and Dr Shawn Baker. 


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#5 Bruce Klein

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 03:18 AM

Agree... Paul Saladino has an excellent grasp. 







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