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[Kentavr]

A 100-ton factory will lower the price of NMN to the cost of a cup of milk tea!

http://yixue.cnjiyin...90403_9854.html

Construction is progressing very actively. See the photos that were taken in April.

The launch of the first phase is scheduled for December 19, 2019.

Edited by Kentavr, 08 September 2019 - 01:37 PM.

[MikeDC]

That is still $200 per bottle. Niagen is only $30 per bottle.

[MikeDC]

There is also a NMN factory in Hong Kong. The price is still over $100

[Kentavr]

MiceDC, I know that you are a person who has an interest in promoting NR. I don’t even want to read your comment.

NMN is cheap: $ 149.95 for 240 tablets of 125 mg.

NR does not have such a low cost.

[MikeDC]

MiceDC, I know that you are a person who has an interest in promoting NR. I don’t even want to read your comment.

NMN is cheap: $ 149.95 for 240 tablets of 125 mg.

NR does not have such a low cost.

That is $37 per month and 250mg per day

NR is $30 per month and 300mg per day

[Oakman]

Anyway... I call this some very excellent news. Amd not just because I consume NMN. Let us hope the same scale of price decrease is seen at retail. Since it's not a drug, only by allowing millions to purchase it can longevity and health trends be seen over a large population going forward.

[joesixpack]

I don't know. This is the country that produced dog food that killed our dogs several times over the last five years. I am not sure I want to eat anything produced in China, and I have already eliminated it from my dogs diet

[Kentavr]

I don't know. This is the country that produced dog food that killed our dogs several times over the last five years. I am not sure I want to eat anything produced in China, and I have already eliminated it from my dogs diet

Production is a certain technological process. You just need to understand what technological process will underlie this production, and everything will become clear.

Moreover, no one forbids buying a large batch and taking it to the laboratory for analysis.

I did not know before which of the manufacturers in China I will order NMN. Now I know.

[Kentavr]

That is $37 per month and 250mg per day

NR is $30 per month and 300mg per day

Please provide links to the cost of these products.

Here is my link: https://alivebynatur...ingual-tablets/

[orion22]

yea just like it happeand with insulin in usa they have to pay 2000$ a mounth to stay alive when they see people want this they keep the price high 

Edited by orion22, 09 September 2019 - 05:47 AM.

[Kentavr]

yea just like it happeand with insulin in usa they have to pay 2000$ a mounth to stay alive when they see people want this they keep the price high

Not certainly in that way.

They must offer a lower price in order to sell in large volumes. In addition, they need to oust other manufacturers from the market, and this is done by reducing costs.

If they do not reduce the cost, they will not sell much, and the costs of maintenance on the production will be too high.

I assume that the price will be 2 times lower for bulk purchase.

Edited by Kentavr, 09 September 2019 - 06:24 AM.

[MikeDC]

Please provide links to the cost of these products.

Here is my link: https://alivebynatur...ingual-tablets/

6 bottles subscription for $180
https://secure.truniagen.com/

[joesixpack]

Production is a certain technological process. You just need to understand what technological process will underlie this production, and everything will become clear.

Moreover, no one forbids buying a large batch and taking it to the laboratory for analysis.

I did not know before which of the manufacturers in China I will order NMN. Now I know.

Never the less, they have failed miserabely in producing dog food, trying to meet whatever goals they are assigned. If they do not stick to the process you get bad product.

 

I do not think I want to trust my life to a country or a group of people that could care less if I live or die. I am not going to test every purchase I make, to make sure it is safe.

 

We seem to be in a trade war to boot.

[Kentavr]

We seem to be in a trade war to boot.

Do you think this is bad?

I buy Ubiquinol at a great price because it has a patent.

People cannot sell Epitalon for commercial use because it has a patent.

The TAME study has raised funding for several years because investing is not profitable.

Companies do not test Rapamycin because it is too cheap.

Pfizer refused to investigate a possible cure for Alzheimer's because it couldn’t make money (a popular drug for rheumatoid arthritis Enbrel)

That's where the war is. Patent System. +The desire to earn as much money as possible.

[bluemoon]

 .

Pfizer refused to investigate a possible cure for Alzheimer's because it couldn’t make money (a popular drug for rheumatoid arthritis Enbrel)
 

 

The Washington Post botched that story and soon retracted it. 

 

Here is a good article by chemist-blogger Derek Lowe on the Pfizer story:

 

"It has to be emphasized as well that the data in the Pfizer presentation are not amazing. I’ve seen people on Twitter and the like going on about how Pfizer had a drug that was 64% likely to cure Alzheimer’s or some other crazy statement (two out of three, y’know), and that betrays an extreme lack of knowledge about clinical data and drug development. Not that that’s uncommon. But no, this is a noticeable-but-small signal, and by itself (I cannot state this strongly enough), it would not be enough for anyone to launch an Alzheimer’s trial." 

 

https://blogs.scienc...ity-not-so-much

[Kentavr]

The Washington Post botched that story and soon retracted it.

Here is a good article by chemist-blogger Derek Lowe on the Pfizer story:

"It has to be emphasized as well that the data in the Pfizer presentation are not amazing. I’ve seen people on Twitter and the like going on about how Pfizer had a drug that was 64% likely to cure Alzheimer’s or some other crazy statement (two out of three, y’know), and that betrays an extreme lack of knowledge about clinical data and drug development. Not that that’s uncommon. But no, this is a noticeable-but-small signal, and by itself (I cannot state this strongly enough), it would not be enough for anyone to launch an Alzheimer’s trial."

https://blogs.scienc...ity-not-so-much

In 2016, Richard Chou, now at the State University of New York at Buffalo, and his colleagues published their own analysis of insurance records.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/27470609

Of 300-odd people with rheumatoid arthritis, those on Enbrel were about a third as likely to get Alzheimer’s as those on other treatments.

The reason why Pfizer’s board of directors so decided:

Pfizer patented a new remedy for rheumatoid arthritis - Xeljanz, and invested heavily in its promotion.

Despite the fact that there are impressive statistics on hundreds of thousands of insurance claims about the effectiveness of this drug, Pfizer decided that it was not profitable for her.

Edited by Kentavr, 13 September 2019 - 08:00 PM.

[Daniel Cooper]

I don't know. This is the country that produced dog food that killed our dogs several times over the last five years. I am not sure I want to eat anything produced in China, and I have already eliminated it from my dogs diet

 

 

If you're consuming any supplements now that ship has likely sailed for you.

[Vivacious1]

Thanks for sharing the good news, How does one decipher what's on the page you link to? Do you have a contact email for the business, by chance?

 

 

 

[Kentavr]

No.

[joesixpack]

If you're consuming any supplements now that ship has likely sailed for you.

You are right, reviewing my supplements, most indicate they are distributed by US companies, and do not indicate where they are made. Niagen seems to be the exception, along with C60. 

[Kentavr]

You are right, reviewing my supplements, most indicate they are distributed by US companies, and do not indicate where they are made. Niagen seems to be the exception, along with C60.

Once I bought OMEGA-3 supplements made by NOW FOODS, until I paid attention to where they buy raw materials. It turned out that they take a lot of raw materials from India (including OMEGA-3 - it was written on the bottle that I bought).

I also read an article in the news that there was already a scandal with this company about the excess of heavy metals in its products containing OMEGA-3.

I used to think that if I make a purchase from an american reputable company, I insure myself against such risks, and the raw materials undergo additional testing. However, it turned out that this is not so, and that all this is mainly marketing.

Now I do not buy the products of this respected american company.

Edited by Kentavr, 18 September 2019 - 04:13 PM.

[Kentavr]

6 bottles subscription for $180
https://secure.truniagen.com/

You're lying again, MiceDC.

The price of 1 capsule of 150 mg (!) Is $ 1 (since "2 vegetarian capsules" is indicated on the back of the label, we must divide the daily dosage of 300 mg / 2 = 150 mg).

https://www.truniage...oduct_page.html

150 mg NR costs $ 1.
100 mg of NR costs about $ 0.66.

Now consider NMN.

https://alivebynatur...ingual-tablets/

$ 149.95 / 240 = $ 0.63 per 125 mg.
100 mg NMN costs $ 0.51.

Which drug is cheaper?

Edited by Kentavr, 19 September 2019 - 04:19 PM.

[MikeDC]

You're lying again, MiceDC.

The price of 1 capsule of 150 mg (!) Is $ 1 (since "2 vegetarian capsules" is indicated on the back of the label, we must divide the daily dosage of 300 mg / 2 = 150 mg).

https://www.truniage...oduct_page.html

150 mg NR costs $ 1.
100 mg of NR costs about $ 0.66.

Now consider NMN.

https://alivebynatur...ingual-tablets/

$ 149.95 / 240 = $ 0.63 per 125 mg.
100 mg NMN costs $ 0.51.

Which drug is cheaper?

$30 per bottle. 2 pills per day. Each day is $1. Each pill is $.50.
Have you attended elementary school?

You're lying again, MiceDC.

The price of 1 capsule of 150 mg (!) Is $ 1 (since "2 vegetarian capsules" is indicated on the back of the label, we must divide the daily dosage of 300 mg / 2 = 150 mg).

https://www.truniage...oduct_page.html

150 mg NR costs $ 1.
100 mg of NR costs about $ 0.66.

Now consider NMN.

https://alivebynatur...ingual-tablets/

$ 149.95 / 240 = $ 0.63 per 125 mg.
100 mg NMN costs $ 0.51.

Which drug is cheaper?

$30 per bottle. 2 pills per day. Each day is $1. Each pill is $.50.
Have you attended elementary school?

[orion22]

are there any cases of supplements getting 3-4 times cheaper during a 10 year spam?

[Kentavr]

are there any cases of supplements getting 3-4 times cheaper during a 10 year spam?

Yeah, when the patent ends)))

[Kentavr]

$30 per bottle. 2 pills per day. Each day is $1. Each pill is $.50.
Have you attended elementary school?

$30 per bottle. 2 pills per day. Each day is $1. Each pill is $.50.
Have you attended elementary school?

You are right, MikeDC. NR will be cheaper than NMN when converted to 100 mg.

However, NMN will probably soon be cheaper. It will be necessary to wait only 1 - 1.5 years.

[Kentavr]

Here's more news on this subject:

http://www.chinapeda.../jkyl/2315.html