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#1 elc202

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Posted 28 September 2019 - 02:13 PM


Hi,

I have been struggling with OCPD/OCD/Depression for 9 years now, male mid 30s, I tried medications and many supplements, but nothing helps fully. Some offer some help but I still struggle.

 

Things I  tried:

CBT: didn't help.

Mindfulness Meditation: made things worse.

Daily Exercise: helps a lot.

 

Medications:

Zoloft: helped but only 40% reduction. so i switched to prozac.

Prozac: better than zoloft but still no more than 50% reduction of symptoms. Also kills libido.

 

 

Supplements:

 

Supplements that didn't help: Multi, Probiotics, NAC, Magnesium, Zinc.

 

Supplements I'm not sure if they helped or made things worse or didn't help: Saffron, Curcumin, Black Seed Oil, Glycine, Taurine, Sulforaphane, Palmitoylethanolamide, L-Tryptophan, 5HTP, CBD, Damiana, Lion's Mane, Ginkgo biloba, Ginseng.

 

Supplements I suspect made things worse: GLA, Omega3, Magnesium L-threonate, L-Theanine, TMG, Acetyl-L-Carnitine

 

Supplements that offered some help: Inositol, Lemon Balm, Agmatine, Milk Thistle.

 

 

 

Things I'm considering  to try : Zembrin (kanna), Lithium Orotate 5mg, Full Spectrum Hemp extract instead of CBD only.

Can you recommend something else that might offer help? or from the list of things I'm considering?

 

thanks.



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Posted 29 September 2019 - 07:35 PM

Same. CBD helped for awhile, then wore off. Took a few months off of it, then tried again, still nothing. I suppose my body adapted, so now it’s useless in the battle. I think CBD with low dose THC can be helpful (at least until homeostasis sets back in...)

I’ve tried nearly all the pharmaceuticals and supplements you’ve listed — a dozen or so anti-depression meds, nothing... along with a healthy whole food plant based diet, regular exercise, calorie restriction, fasting, proper sleep hygiene principles (whatever that means), having friends, then not having friends, being alone, being in groups, having a good job, then having a bad job, then no job, having money, then having no money, staying busy, then doing nothing, meditation, then no meditation, yoga, then no yoga, having dreams and goals and a purpose to keep living, then being adrift...

Nothing seems to work for me. I’ve mostly given up on curing depression.

Daily Exercise: helps a lot.


Of everything, I’d say consistent exercise was best. So I did that and did that and did that and did that.... until I became a professional exerciser, then injuries piled up around me like plastic pill bottles. I’d get some stupid injury (...I felt a pop in my calf, followed by sharp pain that lasted a few years; then it was the broken left toe, followed by left ankle, right knee then left knee, right hip, lower back, then my left shoulder... one injury after another) so so much for exercise as a cure for depression when you’re obsessive compulsive about it and must always be the very best and most talented in the space.

My conclusion is nature and evolution is “trying stuff” (though no really) all the time — randomly, of course, no point to anything at all — and some of beings were hardwired to be happy (I’ve met people in rough, terrible shanty towns who live way happier and are better adjusted than I’ve ever been) and some of nature's little experiments were born messed up, never happy or satisfied, obsessive or compulsive or both, and depressed and anxious, both, and some of us are just.... struggling always with maintaining dignity and grace.

Other than being born anew into an entirely different body, I don’t see much hope for cures. Certainly doesn't want to come from science, does it, we wait and we wait and we read about all the promising new interventions, then they disappear anyway, our hopes right along with them. Whatever... life is short anyway.

Edited by sthira, 29 September 2019 - 08:07 PM.

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:57 AM

Whatever you do, wherever you go, always remember that here at LC you find sympathizing listeners.


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#4 elc202

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Posted 23 July 2020 - 01:17 AM

 

Things I'm considering  to try : Zembrin (kanna), Lithium Orotate 5mg, Full Spectrum Hemp extract instead of CBD only.

 

 

since i posted this topic last september, I tried all those too and they still did not help. I think my main issue is rumination.

since supplements, therapy, and medications offered no real help I'm looking for something completely different. I found electronic devices for depression like this one and this claims to be approved by fda also this one on  amazon do you think they could help? seems fake







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