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Should I get the vaccine? 71 woman, high cholesterol, no diabetes

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#1 hesa2

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 11:16 PM


Or should I avoid it? the option available to me is Pfizer. I read about side effects and I get worried. On the other hand, friends my age got the virus and they got hospitalized with pneumonia.

I'm 71 years old woman with high cholesterol, but I don't have diabetes. I survived last year with no covid by following all the instructions of masks and social distancing. But I did catch the flu last January (It could be covid, who knows) and lasted for 1-2 weeks.

I'm already prepared with some supplements (Vitamin D3, Different forms of Vitamin C (Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Strontium Ascorbate), Zinc, Quercetin, Hesperidin, Lactoferrin, Bee Propolis, Elderberry) I don't take most of these supplements now, I'm just having them in my cabinet if I get the virus.

 

Thank you.


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#2 Dorian Grey

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 11:58 PM

Hi hesa, & it would be very improper for anyone here to advise you yea or nay on whether or not to take the vaccine.  I was very hesitant myself early on, but after tens of millions of doses, with remarkably low serious adverse events (so far) I finally bit the bullet & got 'er done.  Took the J&J jab on April 6th.  

 

We have a thread on the different vaccines here: https://www.longecit...ine-do-we-like/

 

I really don't see a whole lot of difference in risk/reward of the different vaccines, but I actually chose the J&J, for reasons I'm not exactly sure of.  

 

It's a very personal decision, which is best arrived at after doing as much research as you can on your own.  

 

Best of luck, & let us know what you decide.  


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#3 EliotH

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 08:01 PM

I agree with DG about vaccine advice. But, if those supplements actually do anything, I believe they should be take as prophylactics, not after you become infected.


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#4 Dorian Grey

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 10:01 PM

I agree with DG about vaccine advice. But, if those supplements actually do anything, I believe they should be take as prophylactics, not after you become infected.

 

Agree.  You don't want to be deficient in Vitamin-D if you catch this bug. It can take time (a month or more) to correct a deficiency in D, so this is one area where you need preemptive action.  

 

Seniors often have trouble with mineral absorption due to lower stomach acid, so low dose daily zinc (15-25mg) might also be wise.  You have to be careful about too much zinc though, & don't take it with every meal.  Zinc competitively inhibits copper absorption, so too much zinc too often can result in copper deficiency over time.  More isn't always better, & I wouldn't take more than 25mg of supplemental zinc per day unless I was sick, where short term higher zinc (50mg/day) supplementation would not be harmful.  

 

Some recommend taking copper when you regularly supplement zinc, but copper is one mineral I'd never supplement.  It's highly reactive (oxidative stress), & copper deficiency is very rare.  If your home has copper plumbing, you may even have an excess of copper on board.  Chocolate, mushrooms, nuts & seeds are all rich in copper, and if you consume any of these without taking zinc at the same meal, this should help avoid any zinc related copper deficiency.  

 

Believe you are correct in holding the Quercetin, Hesperidin, Lactoferrin, Bee Propolis, Elderberry for treatment of acute disease should you fall ill.  A little quercetin every day wouldn't hurt, but I don't believe it needs to be pre-loaded prophylactically.  

 

Don't know if I'd rely on these supps 100% to help you avoid a nasty case of COVID.  I've got ivermectin from an overseas pharmacy, & I still decided to get the vaccine.  At 65 years old, I'm erring on the side of caution.  



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Posted 28 April 2021 - 04:01 AM

I tell people close to me to get the mRNA vaccines. The technology is new but very specific: mRNA in a lipid bubble is injected into muscle in your arm. The mRNA has the blueprint to direct your own cells to  produce the COVID spike protein. Your immune system will respond by making antibodies and also t-cell immunity that recognize the spike protein so your immune system can detect and fight COVID.  I don't recommend the J&J or AstraZeneca which are based on splicing the COVID Spike gene into an Adenovirus virus so you are injected with a hybrid virus. I think the mRNA technology is cleaner- you are exposed to the mRNA and lipid bubble vs. an adenovirus vector which will make proteins in addition to the Spike. The side effects of the mRNA vaccines are not bad- most people get a sore arm, my sister got chills and a fever the night of the shot, my mom felt very crappy the next day.  Many people I know who have gotten it haven't felt anything other than a sore arm.  A friend who got the J&J has  felt crappy for weeks afterwards and has gotten the runaround from her doctor and J&J.  


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#6 joesixpack

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 07:47 PM

"I'm already prepared with some supplements (Vitamin D3, Different forms of Vitamin C (Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Strontium Ascorbate), Zinc, Quercetin, Hesperidin, Lactoferrin, Bee Propolis, Elderberry) I don't take most of these supplements now, I'm just having them in my cabinet if I get the virus."

 

No medical advice here, just an explanation of what I am doing.

 

I am 71, male, no serious health conditions. I took the vaccine. While most most people that get Covid survive, most of the deaths occur in people 65 and older (about 75% in Az), while people in that age group make up a small percentage of the positive tests (less than 15% in Az). These are not good numbers for people over 65. Additionally, many of the the survivors seem to have potential long term, debilitating medical conditions after recovery. So, the risk of a bad reaction was outweighed, by the severe consequences of catching Covid, for me.

 

Regarding your supplements mentioned above, I suggest taking them now (at least the D3, Quercetin, Vitamin C, and small dosage zinc) to stay healthy. That is what I am doing. You might want to consider adding Tru Niagin.


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#7 Gal220

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 08:40 PM

Even if you take the vaccine, you want to be taking vitamin C, D, and zinc. 

My better half recently had some blood work and was critically low in D, the vaccine still needs your immunity to work if you go that route. 

 

There would probably be less break through cases if the NIH would get off their anti-supplement campaign.

 

Personally I am doing H202 therapy for prevention.







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