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[Rocket]

Curious if you had done any age tests... Growing is an attribute of youth, but I would expect this happening through growth hormone in young people... Do you expect further growth? Is this a concern? My understanding is that Turnbuckle experienced feet growth before he learned how to take C60 without causing this growth - have you tried his approach? Growing bones would require extra calcium - are you taking any? If yes do you take anything else along side calcium to be able to absorb it?

As for your tendons in fingers have you tried chondroitin, glucosomine and/or msm?

I think that I've hit the point of no more growth. No to calcium. I think calcium is dangerous for vascular health. Just good nutrition for protein and carbs. The only thing that helps is steroid shots. I was getting frequent blood tests and they show nothing extraordinary. I think I've hit a biological barrier. If anymore growth then i would look like acromegaly. For now on i just want to avoid catabolism that occurs with time after youth. That's just going to be continued weight training and nutrition and hrt. I don't want to weigh 250 pounds or anything like that as it's a forever fight to eat and train and eat. Life needs to be enjoyed too.

[QuestforLife]

i would say that about 25% of the growth my bones/body experienced was pre-supplements. Adding the supplements really accelerated things tremendously.

 

The feet growth as I have said happened just about a year ago (maybe a little more) without growth hormone and occurred concurrently with starting c60 and leucine supplementation.

 

If you experienced growth before any supplements, it would suggest you do have a form of acromegaly that potentially is exacerbated by supplements. 

 

This would explain why most users of C60 report no growth. 

[Moondancer]

If you experienced growth before any supplements, it would suggest you do have a form of acromegaly that potentially is exacerbated by supplements. 

 

This would explain why most users of C60 report no growth. 

This. Get your Growth hormone, IGF-1 levels tested, sometimes acromegaly is the result of a pituitary adenoma.

[Rocket]

If you experienced growth before any supplements, it would suggest you do have a form of acromegaly that potentially is exacerbated by supplements.

This would explain why most users of C60 report no growth.

That's not how acromegaly works. You don't live for decades without unexplained growth, start eating and training and then experience growth. the body is capable of building new tissue when given the proper nutrients and physical stimulation.

You're talking to someone who was getting 4 blood tests each year and my levels were at the very low end of normal.

What you're all talking about isn't simply how acromegaly works.

So the you have it. I have very low levels of igf1 and still had very significant bodily growth just from diet and training and no supplements to begin with. The body is capable of amazing things naturally but it takes work... Like dragging yourself to the gym exhausted from work and feeding yourself the right food even it you're not hungry.

The is more than growth hormone responsibile for regulating growth

If anything i should be on 1iu of hgh just to be middle of the road for high or igf1.

Edited by Rocket, 09 December 2021 - 01:49 AM.

[QuestforLife]

That's not how acromegaly works. You don't live for decades without unexplained growth, start eating and training and then experience growth. 

 

The average age of acromegaly diagnosis is 40-45 according to this reference [1].

 

The symptoms from the NHS website are instructive:

 

Symptoms of acromegaly

Acromegaly can cause a wide range of symptoms, which tend to develop very slowly over time.

Early symptoms include:

swollen hands and feet – you may notice a change in your ring or shoe size
tiredness and difficulty sleeping, and sometimes sleep apnoea
gradual changes in your facial features, such as your brow, lower jaw and nose getting larger, or your teeth becoming more widely spaced
numbness and weakness in your hands, caused by a compressed nerve (carpal tunnel syndrome)

source: https://www.nhs.uk/c...ons/acromegaly/

 

I am not saying you definitely have acromegaly, but it is not a hypothesis we can dismiss easily.  

 

 

[1] https://uvahealth.co...tary/acromegaly

[johnhemming]

My protocol and that of TRIIM-X invovles HGH.  Mine is via Melatonin theirs is direct.  That will tend to have some growth in certain parts of the body.  I tend to get a bit of extra skin on my feet, but that has calmed down a bit now.  I have not been measuring my foot size precisely.

 

I think a little bit of HGH helps maintain cellular health.  Exactly how demethylation comes in I don't know.  It may not come in as I have no evidence from my own protocol although the regrowing of hair I think is stimulated at least in part by demethylation and it is known that Melatonin can cause demethylation.

[QuestforLife]

My protocol and that of TRIIM-X invovles HGH.  Mine is via Melatonin theirs is direct.  That will tend to have some growth in certain parts of the body.  I tend to get a bit of extra skin on my feet, but that has calmed down a bit now.  I have not been measuring my foot size precisely.

 

I think a little bit of HGH helps maintain cellular health.  Exactly how demethylation comes in I don't know.  It may not come in as I have no evidence from my own protocol although the regrowing of hair I think is stimulated at least in part by demethylation and it is known that Melatonin can cause demethylation.

 

That's interesting.

 

If you don't mind answering what is your age and what is your melatonin dose?

[johnhemming]

I am 61 and I take varying amount of melatonin because I am primarily working on improving sleep.   This varies for a night between 0 and 470mg.  The 470mg is probably quite a bit less bioavailable than say 30mg.   Often once I have slept adequately I will take a top up dose of Melatonin, but it is a bit random really.

[Wookie]

When I first began using C60 in 2012 I saw a steady growth in shoe size, going from 9.5 to 11. This was more an increase in length than width. After I began using C60 properly (with mito fusion), the growth stopped.

 

What is mito fusion. Google was no help:(

[aribadabar]

What is mito fusion. Google was no help:(

 

https://www.longecit...drial-dynamics/

[sensei]

Occam's Razor as requested:

-- It is not c60 voodoo --

It seems it happens to a lot of people, enough that Cleveland Clinic has a few PAGES devoted to it.

BTW, all I did was Google " feet growing in 50's"

“Over time and because of gravity, our feet tend to get longer and wider,” Dr. Rowland explains. “That happens after our ligaments and our tendons become a little bit more lax over time.”

https://www.google.c...-size-time/amp/