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[rombus]

There is a U.S. Senate vote on Tuesday which if passed would expand federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research.

http://news.worldfit...lityDoubted.php

a link to related articles: http://news.google.c...CELLS.xml&hl=en

Edit: My appologies, This probably should have been posted in the "Stem Cell Research News" thread.

Edited by rombus, 16 July 2006 - 09:42 PM.

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Unfortunately, even if it passes the Senate, our glorious president will probably veto it.

[eternaltraveler]

he said he would veto it

[Mind]

Passing congress is a big first step. Even if it is vetoed, it raises awareness.

[treonsverdery]

I visited senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?State=CA senate.gov/general/contact_info...fm.cfm?State=CA telling them I favor embryonic tissue research

Edited by treonsverdery, 02 November 2006 - 04:48 AM.

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Looks like the stem cell bill passed the Senate, 63-37, which is four votes short of the two-thirds majority that would be needed to override Bush's veto.

Also, according to the article, polls show as much as 70 percent public support for embryonic stem cell research.

The president is still planning on vetoing the bill, however, it appears, continuing to stay out of touch with the average American.

[JonesGuy]

If you want to help it appear that the public supports stem cell research, click on this MSNBC poll. It's literally two clicks away from helping create a (not very useful, but still present) statistic.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7834030/

Treons: thanks for your link. The American cohort of this site should have contributed a couple months ago, but still, better late than never.

[DJS]

The MSN poll is at 83% approval.

Stem cell is, and will continue to be, a political winner for the democrats. Therefore, never expect the issue to be fully resolved. [lol]

[DJS]

he said he would veto it

History will judge his consistent opposition to stem cell research as an atrocity.

[JonesGuy]

I think the fact that the individual states have taken initiatives should be applauded. USAers can write the state reps and tell them they support such efforts. In fact, you really should.

[JonesGuy]

Well, he fricken vetoed it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13935219/

What a bastard. Claiming moral high ground too. Um, torture is okay though?

[eternaltraveler]

on the up side this means that after he's out of office something like this will likely pass

[DJS]

There's an upside?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_Republican_candidates_in_the_2008_U.S._presidential_election

[DJS]

Think "Condi 08"

[eternaltraveler]

there are some good canidates on that list.

[jaydfox]

What a bastard. Claiming moral high ground too. Um, torture is okay though?

Yeah, but torture can help save millions of lives... Er, wait...

Besides, doesn't torture just "feel right"? Vengeance is fine.

[jaydfox]

By the way, I love this quote (from an AP piece: By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer):

...said White House spokesman Tony Snow. "The president is not going to get on the slippery slope of taking something living and making it dead for the purposes of scientific research."

Well, then he's really inconsistent, because billions of dollars of federal grant money go into scientific research which relies on "taking something living and making it dead".

These guys are so f***ing stupid, they can't even make clear what their position is.

[JonesGuy]

Oh, this has done nothing but delay things. All the embryoes in the freezer are probably going to remain there, because the scientists know they'll eventually be allowed to use them (and keeping them frozen isn't too expensive).

Still bugs the piss out of me. $3 trillion in pork, and this is what he vetoes.

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Top 10 Stem-Cell Flubs (link)
The top ten things, said in Congress this week when the debate was going on over the stem cell bill, that were blatently untrue.

[jaydfox]

Flub number 7 was the most informative, for me anyway.

7. "As we all know, on Aug. 9, 2001, President Bush laid out his principles and put in place a policy, which I supported, that for the first time allowed federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research." -- Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tennessee)

Not true. President Clinton put in place the first policy (.pdf) to allow federal funding of human embryonic stem-cell research. Bush halted this policy upon entering the White House and didn't take up the subject again until 2001.

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Daily Show's Jon Stewart on Stem Cell Debate:


Quite amusing. [lol]

[Lazarus Long]

Here is something not so amusing.

http://news.yahoo.co..._stemcells_dc_2

Germany seeks EU ban on stem-cell research funding
By Carsten Lietz
Thu Jul 20, 1:57 PM ET

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Germany pressed its EU partners to ban European funding for embryonic stem-cell research, a day after President George W. Bush vetoed a bill that would have expanded such work in the United States.

"The European Union science programme should not be used to give financial incentives to kill embryos," German Research Minister Annette Schavan wrote in a letter seen by Reuters on Thursday before a meeting on EU science funding on Monday.

"The current proposal from the European Commission and the European Parliament does not rule this out."

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Diplomats said Germany was hoping to persuade Italy, home of the Roman Catholic church, to join the objectors, creating a blocking minority that would force an amendment.

A narrow majority in the European Parliament voted last month in favor of allowing continued public funding for stem-cell research. If Germany can force an amendment in the council of EU governments, parliament would have to reconsider the issue on a second reading.



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Article on how states are now starting to fund stem cell research in larger numbers, or political candidates for state offices are promising funding, in response to Bush's veto.