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#1 icyT

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 01:27 PM


The more I think about it, there's probably more value to video games than just fun and entertainment. Being so graphics intensive, with all the data, speed, interactiveness, they probably encourage an increase in computer capabilities. Memory, processing speed, etc. I see this as helping increase cheapness, through mass demand, for when you want to use it for scientific pursuits. The same would apply to co-operating with large networks of thousands of people, great for bioinform and other prediction methods like futurology, social trends.

Alternatively, such engines likely have alternative applications for military, like flight simulators, since games are more often coming up with complex physics engines to simulate reality better, I heard about this with Tribes 2. If you can come up with efficient engines for mass considerations of physics, it's only a matter of time until you could implement something similar to chemical interactions like bioinformatics. I always wondered how predictions might alter with full considerations of londom forces. Heck, you might even be able to include quantum tendencies in considerations for better accuracy, like they do with satellites and computer chips.

Even just considering fun and entertainment though, I believe they make you smarter, increase online social skills (if you approach it correctly), increase certain areas of finger-eye coordination, thought speed, strategy, reaction, and in general, enjoyment makes you happy, releasing the pleasant chemicals which um... cure stress?

#2 maestro949

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 11:02 PM

Well said. I actually worry about the trend towards console gaming. Will chipmakers and graphics card makers slow advancements due to a lack of demand for high-end PC gaming in the near-term if the trend continues?

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#3 Ghostrider

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 07:32 AM

No, because the technology that goes into that console is the same that is going into building the BlueGene supercomputer. Both are related to the PowerPC platform developed by IBM. In fact, I think consoles will encourage technology growth because there is a strong demand for faster and more powerful consoles and...equally as important, a large market that will pay $500 a shot every 3 years for the most powerful technology. Those kids involved in the PS3 riot outside of Best Buy are actually helping to fund technology development.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 08:12 AM

Probably those who fund research for "serious" computing, like code-breaking clusters and weapons simulators drive development more than the gaming industry... but those gaming nerds sure have helped make it cheap, and they've given us closed standards with buggy hardware (see nVidia, ATI).

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 09:55 AM

Video gaming is a form of entertaintment that can be quit addicting. Personally, I think video games (PC, xbox, playstation) are a waist of time. However, because of the trend in technology growth and better gaming software due to the hardware improvements, video games companies with strive to improve their products and make money. However, the important significance of these technologies is the hardware and software improvements, which help medicine, biotechnology (stem cells, protein folding, genetic engineering, cancer, Alzeihmers, metabolism research, just to mention a few), engineering, mathematicans, and physics solve practical problems. It's good that the trend in technology is improving, but I feel pity for those that waist their time with video gaming.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 11:21 PM

Video games aren't always a waste of time imo. They're fun. I pity people that don't strive for paradise 24/7.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 02:26 AM

Video gaming is a form of entertaintment that can be quit addicting. Personally, I think video games (PC, xbox, playstation) are a waist of time. However, because of the trend in technology growth and better gaming software due to the hardware improvements, video games companies with strive to improve their products and make money. However, the important significance of these technologies is the hardware and software improvements, which help medicine, biotechnology (stem cells, protein folding, genetic engineering, cancer, Alzeihmers, metabolism research, just to mention a few), engineering, mathematicans, and physics solve practical problems. It's good that the trend in technology is improving, but I feel pity for those that waist their time with video gaming.


Good point. Generally I think there are better things to do than play video games. However, Dead Rising, Need for Speed Carbon, and Call of Duty II for the XBOX 360 have consumed too much of my time. I did not buy the console either, but the games are really fun. Too bad playing them accomplishes nothing.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 02:29 AM

Video games aren't always a waste of time imo.  They're fun.  I pity people that don't strive for paradise 24/7.


Explain to me how playing video games will help bring paradise closer. There are a lot of guys on the street promoting their "Budweiser Fund" who are striving for paradise 24/7 :-). They are always on vacation, but they never seem very happy.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 02:42 AM

I just believe in balance is all, which is just my personal, individual belief. A healthy sense of play is just as important (to me) as a healthy struggle with labor, and neither is healthy when it's just one or the other, but that's just my own opinion. Yours might be different, and that's fine.

#10 Ghostrider

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 06:51 AM

amar, that's a very common view and I respect it. Sometimes though I believe that balance must be scarified in order to achieve time-dependent goals. I restrict that claim though to only balance between luxuries and needs. Stuff like video games I regard as a luxury. Stuff like food, sleep, shelter, and un-restricted lifespan I regard as a need.

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:31 PM

>Even just considering fun and entertainment though, I believe they make you smarter, increase online social skills (if you approach it correctly), increase certain areas of finger-eye coordination, thought speed, strategy, reaction, and in general, enjoyment makes you happy, releasing the pleasant chemicals which um... cure stress?


I think they encourage low-effort for high-stimulation and a regulation of brain functioning towards that situation with extended use, and are quite good bait for worsening the symptoms of ADD-types.

Not that there couldn't be "good" things too. Reflexes, etc.?

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 02:51 AM

I unfortunately waste a good deal of time on computer games. I agree that they are a complete waste of time, but so is television and television doesn't really help advance anything. I don't watch television anymore. If anything, I playaround youtube, but for the purposes of entertainment I'll play some WC3, or Counterstrike, or whatever recent game I have got my hands on. It is a waste of time, but it is also relaxing.

If Duke Nukem stumbles across this thread, then let me congratulate you on Prey. That was a very cool game. I finished it in 3 days of almost solid play over the christmas break lol.

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 09:54 AM

but for the purposes of entertainment I'll play some WC3, or Counterstrike, or whatever recent game I have got my hands on.


What WC3 is that? Only one game deserves that name.

#14 Aegist

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 10:14 AM

Warcraft 3.... there are otrher WC3's?

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 05:43 PM

Wing Commander 3

You multiplayer people are ridiculous.

#16 jdog

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:36 AM

Groundbreaking new study just in!!

http://www.livescien...deo_vision.html

Hurrah for video games...but not to much now.

Wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that I have 20/10 vision...

#17 jdog

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:39 AM

Uh oh, another new study shows that video games can kill...literally.

http://www.livescien...day/602749.html

#18 Aegist

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:49 AM

LOL, is DukeNukem watching this thread? Turns out he has been fighting the good fight against ageing even in his computer game creations!

"First-person action games helped study subjects improve their spatial resolution, meaning their ability to clearly see small, closely packed together objects, such as letters, she said. Game-playing actually changes the way our brains process visual information.

"These games push the human visual system to the limits and the brain adapts to it," she said, in a prepared statement. "That learning carries over into other activities and possibly everyday life."

The finding suggests that playing first-person action video games could be a useful rehabilitation therapy for people with certain vision problems, she said, such as amblyopia (or lazy eye) and the simple effects of aging. "

#19 knite

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 10:06 PM

Well, I've been playing video games since I was probably 7, and I would bet that they helped me a good deal. When I learned to fly it came almost naturally because I had learned that certain things require subtlety, and video games taught me this. Less is more, dont overcontrol, etc. I had very good dexterity and spatial recongition too. Hell the biggest hinderance was probably fear of crashing the damn thing. So I would say that nothing is a waste of time, used in moderation, even television and video games.

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 10:03 PM

Good point.  Generally I think there are better things to do than play video games.  However, Dead Rising, Need for Speed Carbon, and Call of Duty II for the XBOX 360 have consumed too much of my time.  I did not buy the console either, but the games are really fun.  Too bad playing them accomplishes nothing.


On the one hand, you admit to playing crap games, and on the other hand, you complain that playing them accomplishes nothing.

Play some Brain Training for the Nintendo DS, and get Dr. Kawashima to give you a score of 20 years old for several days in a row, and tell me your cognitive skills haven't improved somewhat.

Play Puzzle Quest, and tell me your pattern-recognition skills don't improve over time.

Play Civilization IV, and tell me it doesn't permanently alter your view of human history and the structure of societies.

Many games offer a tremendous set of cognitive challenges, and even the ones that aren't explicitly labeled as brain training games often offer surprisingly deep cognitive challenges while simultaneously offering a very rewarding entertainment experience. Even a seemingly shallow game such as World of WarCraft can eventually evolve into an astonishingly complex player-vs-player experience requiring an astonishing level of real-time planning, lighting-quick strategic and tactical decision-making, and situational analysis.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 03:17 AM

I went through a "video game phase" when I was a lot younger -- starting when I started playing Starcraft, then onto Diablo II. This lasted about 2 years I would say, ending in my freshman year of high school. My grades were horrible and after some self reflection I turned things around a bit. This ditch of video games was probably the best thing I have ever done for myself. After that I went through a classic "immature high school kid" phase (a slackass) and then after some more self reflection figured out what needed to be done. Now I'm the man.

My advice: Ditch the video games.
I think that world of warcraft has actually wounded our younger generations simply because it is so incredably addicting. Check this out:
http://aggregatefasc...ld-of-warcraft/

“From my vantage point as a guild decision maker, I’ve seen it destroy more families and friendships and take a huge toll on individuals than any drug on the market today, and that means a lot coming from an ex-club DJ. It took a huge personal toll on me. To illustrate the impact it had, let’s look at me one year later. When I started playing, I was working towards getting into the best shape of my life (and making good progress, too). Now a year later, I’m about 30 pounds heavier that I was back then, and it is not muscle. I had a lot of hobbies including DJing (which I was pretty accomplished at) and music as well as writing and martial arts. I haven’t touched a record or my guitar for over a year and I think if I tried any Kung Fu my gut would throw my back out……”


A little ammusing exageration but still -- Blizzard's revenue is getting ridiculous.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 04:53 AM

I still beleive Video Games are a worthwhile hobby

As i've gotten older though I've realized the tremendous investment they require and I play only a fraction as much as I used to

I'll admit I learned alot from various video games and Civ 4 can effectively show things better than a History teacher ever could

It has also pre-wired me for certain other tasks and greatly increased my reasoning and spatial abilities...A good puzzle game can make you feel like the king of the world...Solving that last puzzle or piecing together how to beat the final boss can become applicable in the real world

As it currently stands video games have become a cold/rainy day activity - Theres so much else I can do and learn and not enough time to do it all...I think getting older makes you realize that there are better things you could spend your youth on

Game in Moderation - Like everything else

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 04:55 AM

Exactly.

I'm glad I have finally been able to 'moderate' my gaming.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 05:46 PM

Super Mario - Dune - Sonic - Gunstar Heroes - Civilization - Starcraft - Total War - Warcraft - Wing Commander - Final Fantasy - Metal Gear - Twisted Metal - Goldeneye - Baldurs Gate - Madden - Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic - Guitar Hero - Smash Bros - Chrono Trigger - Shadowrun

If only I could play them for the first time again...

#25 lucid

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 09:18 PM

Yeh, I had been pretty addicted to Warcraft III. I gave it up 3 months ago. Has been great. Recently I have starteded playing a few games that I'm not addicted to back in to life.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 02:12 PM

I think whether or not someone plays video/computer games depends on how much of an addictive personality they happen to have. Or perhaps it just comes down to "good old-fashioned self-discipline to know when to stop and then to actually do it (despite being "almost done" with level 17!, lol)."

I personally love computer games but they can be addictive for me. I now like to play them at internet cafe's so I turn playing them into a "special occasion," which does not happen every day. And also playing is more social that way.

I've purposely not yet played an online rpg because I have heard how super-addictive they are. But I do love a good real time strategy game like Warhammer 40,000, Dark Crusade or Starcraft. Yes, even if there are 12 year-old South Korean boys who can wipe the floor with me when we play online! lol I've really been wanting to play Civilization IV and can't wait to get my hands on it.

At the rate new games come out I don't worry about playing the "golden oldies." I went to a SF Con recently and a funny skit was played out where the actors were supposed to be 8 bit characters from an early rpg videogame. People ("older" gamers like me) were rolling in the aisles as they parodied the fun and frustration of those bygone days.

If we think we have seen computer game addiction let me tell you, you ain't seen nothin' yet! As the years and decades go by and technology gets more advanced, this will be seen as a truly major social problem. I find it very interesting that the Chinese government is clamping down on internet cafe computer game use in minors.

Circa 2040- "Please Net Cafe A.I., don't break off my neurojack connection to the main server, I just want one more chance to feel my muscles ache and my lungs burn as I give it all the strength of my 50th level Knight self to the cause of killing the evil Red Dragon!"




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