BTW, his name is Stephen Hawking.
See the post by karomesis? See how a forum is problematic and very possibly inherently dysfunctional? Is this what you want to try to market?
Edited by friendlyai, 16 December 2007 - 09:53 PM.
Posted 16 December 2007 - 09:49 PM
Edited by friendlyai, 16 December 2007 - 09:53 PM.
Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:44 PM
Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:49 PM
That's like a brave new world strategy. While ImmInst deserves and should work toward accumulating the means as if it could initiate, fund, and manage all life-extension departments worldwide, you seem to think that organizations in the quaternary/quinary sector need to self-demote for this. We can imagine ImmInst itself operating in different comfort zones, but they still include many people not asking for Big Brother or who wouldn't/couldn't be into transhumanist things anyway (until we can actually hand them the world). If people are smart enough, which I've been told is the preference (sometimes, the necessity), the concept of immortality isn't difficult to grasp, and there's nothing "illogical" or "frightening" about the prospect of infinite partial solutions to professional problem solvers.I didn't say "ditching" I said lose the forum. If you want to help the "meme" you will avoid any drastic non-confidence or competence hurting actions. Set up the news portal with its secure separate web site which could still be a part of your domain. In fact I would suggest making it your home page. Arrange for a small staff for proof, accuracy and intent checking with an editor in charge. Make it volunteer for now but have a stipulation that monetary reward of reasonable compensation would be offered if sufficiently generated.. Chief editor would then collect news stories from around the world concerning ways and means to lessen involuntary death. Besides posting brief descriptions and links to these, direct reports from contributors could be used after passing quality and relevancy criteria to become original news stories. Just get it going. The data in the articles and references alone brings search engine traffic. Add to that some good natured marketing and you could get a daily clientel much larger than the forum can sustain. Then place your revenue making means, whether ads or premiums, (premiums suggested as less problematic in possibly corrupting the mission) as usual, on your most frequented pages which hopefully will become the news portal. If it works, great.
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:03 PM
Well, to clarify more, lose the forum as the focus. Don't lose it altogethor. The problem with the forum as the focus you then attempt to market debate itself, not informing. Forums are also frail as far as letting the crass rise to the top. I don't know of any successful self-funding organization that uses a forum as its main focus. Enlighten me if you know of any, thanks.
BTW, his name is Stephen Hawking.
See the post by karomesis? See how a forum is problematic and very possibly inherently dysfunctional? Is this what you want to try to market?
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:18 PM
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:42 PM
Posted 17 December 2007 - 01:09 AM
You're failing to see the one primary value in the forum. That being that it allows us to find volunteers, and eventual paid staff and researchers; it's been a great recruitment place for other LE organizations. Many of the MF research team got connected through here including myself. It brings like minded people together where they can brain storm and come up with ways they can each best serve the mission. In terms of this I'd say imminst has already paid of many times what meager monetary funds are in the coffer.
Edited by friendlyai, 17 December 2007 - 01:11 AM.
Posted 17 December 2007 - 02:09 AM
elrond:
You're failing to see the one primary value in the forum. That being that it allows us to find volunteers, and eventual paid staff and researchers; it's been a great recruitment place for other LE organizations. Many of the MF research team got connected through here including myself. It brings like minded people together where they can brain storm and come up with ways they can each best serve the mission. In terms of this I'd say imminst has already paid of many times what meager monetary funds are in the coffer.
A forum can be of service. A service should not be a forum. I think that is very possibly part of the reason why "meager monetary funds are in the coffer." You know relatively open forums contain a lot of garbage besides the gems. You need a well focused viable and valuable service to make the pointed web presence that can generate, sustain, and manage high traffic and revenue collecting. I truly suggest that seeking to be good for all is a wise business policy and maybe even the one thing that Imminst can embrace that can work to drive the traffic via valuable and valued information sharing. People support what supports them. Shy far and wide from any idea that you seek an elite in any way shape or form. That is at cross purposes with the mission and does not sell, at least, there is a limitation of how many can be suckered into supporting something that does not hold their best interests at HEART!
Posted 17 December 2007 - 08:09 PM
Im not saying it is, but, Im just saying I wouldnt discount that either.
Posted 18 December 2007 - 07:44 PM
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:34 PM
BTW stands for "by the way" quite common in online discussions and email.
Posted 18 December 2007 - 11:33 PM
Posted 19 December 2007 - 12:05 AM
Well, heck, we should not try to correct ourselves or help others be more accurate?
Edited by shepard, 19 December 2007 - 12:05 AM.
Posted 19 December 2007 - 12:20 AM
Posted 19 December 2007 - 12:35 AM
Your sincerity is obviously not there, shepard.
Posted 19 December 2007 - 05:23 PM
The suggestions thread is informal communication? Informal communication has a requirement? Seems to me we have another example of a forum navigator misleading. I think elrond could correct the spelling of hierarchy in this thread's title but perhaps in his desire to discredit me, he would prefer to retain the suggestion that this thread is insincere which communicates that Imminst is insincere but Imminst's image is of little consequence apparently to a Director or a Navigator here. I suppose "small mistakes" that shoot Imminst in the foot are not worth correcting if they aid in the preservation of a ruling elite.In informal communication, etiquette requires overlooking small mistakes.
Interesting that you should choose this particular attempt at a character slur. As far as I can tell from other posts you have made on this forum, if any one might have a drinking problem, it could very well be you, shepard. Appears that Imminst provides a "Navigator" for whom one may need a designated driver at times.Unless you're a lush, then I guess it goes with the territory.
No, seems you do yourself and Imminst the dishonor and this seems perfectly fine by the other members of the staff here.How dare you, sir? 'Tis a dishonor you do me.
Posted 19 December 2007 - 06:45 PM
The suggestions thread is informal communication?In informal communication, etiquette requires overlooking small mistakes.
Informal communication has a requirement?
Interesting that you should choose this particular attempt at a character slur.
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