I stumbled over Thermage a seemingly easy treatment to reduce wrinkels.
http://www.thermage....general/faq.cfm
has anyone more information then the marketing blab? These pics certainly look good and have one wanting to try it .
Posted 06 January 2008 - 05:44 PM
Posted 07 January 2008 - 05:03 AM
It sounds like a little hand-held microwave oven for skin... It probably works at least in some cases. The pics they put up on the website always look good. Personally, I'd want to know that the incidence of bad side effects was really low before using it.I stumbled over Thermage a seemingly easy treatment to reduce wrinkels.
http://www.thermage....general/faq.cfm
has anyone more information then the marketing blab? These pics certainly look good and have one wanting to try it .
Posted 07 January 2008 - 09:10 AM
It sounds like a little hand-held microwave oven for skin... It probably works at least in some cases. The pics they put up on the website always look good. Personally, I'd want to know that the incidence of bad side effects was really low before using it.
Posted 24 January 2008 - 10:05 PM
It sounds like a little hand-held microwave oven for skin... It probably works at least in some cases. The pics they put up on the website always look good. Personally, I'd want to know that the incidence of bad side effects was really low before using it.
Yes the heat shrivels the colagen in skin leading to a tightenng and seemingly an increased formation of new colagen. It has spectacularly low rate of adverse reactions like 0.2% have any sort of negative effects and of those it mostly goes away. so it seems to be quite safe. Plus you usually need only one treatment and a full face treatment costs half that of surgery. I kinda like the concept but am unsure if it is that cool after all hence me asking for input.
For the longer term i am not so shure it is that smart. What do others opine?
Posted 24 January 2008 - 10:27 PM
Thermage has caused permanent "dents" and fat loss in some patients. They acknowledge this in their own literature. I would never let anyone cook the fat in my face so the collagen fibers can shrink. When you need tightening then a partial face lift is still the way to go (look at Madonnas newly tightened face), but you´re to young you don´t need that. If you just want a nice even skin tone then IPL will take care of pigmentation and broken blood vessels without any adverse effects.
Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:33 PM
No, prescriptions don't work like that. You'll need to ask your prescriber for a new prescription. As far as I know Zorac is only registered to treat psoriasis in most European countries. So your doc might be reluctant to prescribe it off-label.Oh, i should be able to get tazarotene with my tretinoin script right? Well, the lady at the pharmacy would not give it to me so i'll have to see about that later.
Posted 25 January 2008 - 08:01 PM
No, prescriptions don't work like that. You'll need to ask your prescriber for a new prescription. As far as I know Zorac is only registered to treat psoriasis in most European countries. So your doc might be reluctant to prescribe it off-label.
Posted 25 January 2008 - 10:45 PM
Posted 26 January 2008 - 10:30 AM
I do not have experience with thermage, but I was reading about it on this site:
http://www.yestheyrefake.net/
http://www.yestheyre...ne_thermage.htm
Posted 27 January 2008 - 10:19 AM
Thermage has caused permanent "dents" and fat loss in some patients. They acknowledge this in their own literature. I would never let anyone cook the fat in my face so the collagen fibers can shrink. When you need tightening then a partial face lift is still the way to go (look at Madonnas newly tightened face), but you´re to young you don´t need that. If you just want a nice even skin tone then IPL will take care of pigmentation and broken blood vessels without any adverse effects.
Anyway, thanks for the information fredrik.
http://www.smartskin...ofrequency.htmlBased on these and other studies, it appears that only about 50-60% people experience clearly noticeable improvement with Thermage (at least with a single treatment). Even in responders the lifting effect is relatively modest: for example, brows are usually lifted by about 0.5-2 mm. This translates into a fresher, brighter look rather than dramatically younger appearance. However, since the healing response varies widely among people, there seems to be a minority, perhaps 10%, who experience substantial lifting and may look 10 years younger. On the other hand, up to a half of the people get no benefits at all.
http://www.smartskin...micalpeels.htmlBased on relatively limited research comparing the two methods, deep peels remain a viable alternative to ablative laser resurfacing. For example, Dr. Langsdon and colleagues from Facial Plastic Surgery Clinic, Germantown TN, concluded that:
"Phenol CP [chemical peel] is as effective as the laser in diminishing rhytids [wrinkles] in the thin-skinned areas of the face. The laser produces improved results in the thick, glandular areas of the face, but also produces more intense hypopigmentation, longer periods of patient discomfort, and longer periods of postoperative erythema [redness]. Both phenol CP and laser resurfacing remain useful clinical tools."
In another study, Dr Moss and coworkers found some advantage of phenol peel versus ablative laser in relation to rebuilding collagen. In particular, they concluded that:
"The initial biopsies demonstrated that the CO2 lasers ablate more superficial skin than the peels, but the 3-month biopsy specimens showed that the zone of new collagen formation was thicker as a result of the phenol peel. ...With the parameters used in this study, phenol peels resulted in the formation of a thicker zone of collagen despite the deeper ablation depth of the laser."
Edited by fredrik, 27 January 2008 - 10:58 AM.
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