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Fitna - why Islam is evil


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#151 VictorBjoerk

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 09:00 AM



Another version of the angry muslim leader......

#152 Ben

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:17 AM

You guys really don't get it, do you ? The Muslims don't consider Islam a religion, but a complete political and legal system which should govern the world and while we sit here debating whether or not we should hate them, they go on the offensive.


I think this is really an excellent point.
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#153 shifter

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:42 AM

Its becoming a real problem in Australia too



The leader at the end that preaches to a lot of young people also said once 'If she wears clothes that beautifies her appearence she is elligible for rape'. He was born and raised in Australia too. And so often when you hear of people being raped, the offender 9 times out of 10 is always described as someone of 'middle eastern descent'. I guess this is what you get when their leaders incite rape, violence and hatred to young minds.

Lets face it, these people do not assimilate, actually no, they will not assimilate into any other country and respect its culture, values or beliefs. The Qur'an forbids them to. Infact it tells them to change it! I dont know why our governments continue to let such hardcore people in. These ideals of theirs dont stop with the generation that was born in the middle east. Their children are just as hardcore because they are all brainwashed from early on into believing that their way (Islam) is the only way.

I heard that even up in Iceland, muslims were whinging about there not being a mosk. Why move to a country that does not accomodate your way of life unless you plan on changing that country??

Personally I am Agnostic. I cant say for sure whether or not a 'God' or higher power or 'afterlife' exists, but I think the universe in all its infinite wonder may have something and that our human mind is far too small at this point of time to say for sure one way or the other.

#154 abolitionist

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 01:03 PM

Islam is not evil unless all religions are evil. There are fanatics in all religions.

Mainstream Islam is actually very tolerant and respectful of other religions and cultures.

It's only because the west is trying to intrude upon them that muslims are attacking - plain and simple.

They could care less about our sick culture in the USA - they don't fear our freedom.

They only fear us trying to corrupt their culture - for good reason.

McNazis are breathing down their necks.

Our rights and values are really bullshit here in the US so how can we attempt to spread our false culture.

We don't give a shit about our own people.

Only for posturing do we care about human rights here in the states.
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#155 Fledge

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:09 PM

It is belief it’s self that is the problem or more specifically belief in absolutes. In the following I set out to argue that to believe anything with such conviction without scope for discourse is inherently dangerous and that it is the nature of belief it self that is so poisonous .

Unjustified beliefs are to ideas what a defective gene is to humans continually passed down through the generations by virtue of a primitive survival mechanism an advantage in return, hope, optimism and obedience to the tribe. To push this crude analogy further within the set of all ideas there is much variation with some far more susceptible to this disease than others. The obvious example being of course Islam which meaning surrender to Allah, surrender your thoughts your judgements surrender in every sense of the world to this “celestial dictator” and then embark on jihad , the struggle to understand the true meaning of Islam. Struggle being something on understatement with discussion on the matter reserved for the after life when presumably all will be made clear providing you are not burning in hell that is.

Belief is an affliction that is not unique Islam or any religion for that matter but is present in anything that can be believed absolutely, be it morality, ideology, nationalism, Darwinism or merely loyalty to ones favourite sports teams. When west attempts to legislate and enforce absolute moral standards it is just as guilty of the same fanaticism it seeks to destroy. What we are seeing now is the clash of ethnocentric ideals an inevitable consequence of a rapidly shrinking world we need to open up our own moral standards to discussion and peer review before we try to inflict them upon others. The west cannot hope to engage Islam on the intellectual level until it is free from the very same flaws, only then can it be in a position to propose a consistent alternative.

The threat of violence and military action merely plays into the extremists hands. People are willing to surrender anything in a climate of fear. The “war on terror” is simply presenting Muslims with Jihad as career opportunity and provides a wealth of propaganda for the extremists. Only when with futileness of global Islamification will their faith be tested. In order call Islam evil does one have to accept an absolute innate morality? That is to take up positions on good and evil based on an obscure matrix of priori arguments that cannot themselves be falsified.



Thank you by the way for posting the video I had been looking for that for ages. The best thing about the film is it confronts people with the cult of death that is Islam and promotes debate and presents a case for intolerance however here Geert Wilders is trying to create the climate of fear that Islam thrives on in order to promote his own right wing agenda.
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#156 Ben

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:10 AM

I would like to offer my heartfelt condolences to anyone who has been affected by the recent terrorist attacks in India.

Also, I would like to mention that you are not alone in condemning Islam. There is someone who understands, and it is in the light of these attacks that Fitna becomes even more relevant than it previously was.

I'm all for freedom of religious expression and I generally hold very, very liberal political views. It's time to be practical though and accept the reality of the situation the world is currently in.
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#157 abolitionist

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:29 AM

I would like to offer my heartfelt condolences to anyone who has been affected by the recent terrorist attacks in India.

Also, I would like to mention that you are not alone in condemning Islam. There is someone who understands, and it is in the light of these attacks that Fitna becomes even more relevant than it previously was.

I'm all for freedom of religious expression and I generally hold very, very liberal political views. It's time to be practical though and accept the reality of the situation the world is currently in.


yes, it's time to accept the fact that the US government is behind Islamic terrorism.

British and US special forces soldiers have been caught dressed up like Islamic freedom fighters

attacking American soldiers.

watch "fabled enemies" and "terror storm" the movies

Edited by abolitionist, 27 November 2008 - 11:33 AM.

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