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[jackie100]

I have been reading the board for awhile and I have read that the great sunscreens right now in the U.S are La Roche Posay, Neutrogena (Helioplex) and L'Oreal.
I am basically looking for a day cream that has SPF of anywhere from 20-25 (I know it's bad but I like to tan a TEENY bit) but with a lot of anti-oxidants
and I would prefer something more high end and not drug store. If I HAVE to I would use a separate moisturizer and then sunscreen on top but I would prefer
to use just one product because I am lazy.

Right now I am using Chanel Rectifiance cream which has spf of 15 and is also very moisturizing but I am looking to try something different.

I have been reading reviews over at Makeupalley and the only problem I have with La Roche Posay is that it might too oily for me... I don't really like Neutrogena for my face, for my body it's ok but I need something with antioxidants.

These are the active ingedients and other ingredients for the Clinique... Are they sufficient do you think?? Is this considered a "stable" sunscreen?? Is the protection adequate?

Active Ingredients: octinoxate 7.40%, avobenzone 3.00%, oxybenzone 2.00%.

Ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified, dimethicone, butylene, glycol, isononyl isononanoate, silica, glycerin, polyglyceryl-2 triisostearate, polysilicone-11, laminaria saccharina extract, triticum vulgare (wheat bran) extract, olea europaea (olive) fruit extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, sea whip extract, adenosine phosphate, trehalose, disodium nadh, creatine, sodium rna, caffeine, nordihydroguaiaretic acid, sodium dna, phytosphingosine, linoleic acid, cholesterol, ferulic acid, ascorbyl tocopheryl maleate, sodium hyaluronate, aminopropyl ascorbyl phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, sucrose,micrococcus lysate, astrocaryum murumuru butter, lauryldimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein, lecithin, tridecyl trimellitate, hexylene glycol, ethylhexyl stearate, ethylhexyl pamitate, propylene glycol dicaprate, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), zerolite, maltodextrin, c1-8 alkyl tetrahydroxycyclohexanoate, caprylyl glycol, polyethylene, hydroxyethylcellulose, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, pvp, laureth-4, laureth-23, polysorbate 20, ammunium acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp copolymer, tromethamine, disodium edta, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben.

Thanks so much for your help!

Edited by jackie100, 01 June 2008 - 10:54 AM.

[Eva Victoria]

This Clinique cream does not contain any photostable UV-filter nor has any UVA protection.
If I were you I would use Clinique: Continous Resque Antioxidant Moisturizer + a sunscreen sold in the EU!

I have been reading the board for awhile and I have read that the great sunscreens right now in the U.S are La Roche Posay, Neutrogena (Helioplex) and L'Oreal.
I am basically looking for a day cream that has SPF of anywhere from 20-25 (I know it's bad but I like to tan a TEENY bit) but with a lot of anti-oxidants
and I would prefer something more high end and not drug store. If I HAVE to I would use a separate moisturizer and then sunscreen on top but I would prefer
to use just one product because I am lazy.

Right now I am using Chanel Rectifiance cream which has spf of 15 and is also very moisturizing but I am looking to try something different.

I have been reading reviews over at Makeupalley and the only problem I have with La Roche Posay is that it might too oily for me... I don't really like Neutrogena for my face, for my body it's ok but I need something with antioxidants.

These are the active ingedients and other ingredients for the Clinique... Are they sufficient do you think?? Is this considered a "stable" sunscreen?? Is the protection adequate?

Active Ingredients: octinoxate 7.40%, avobenzone 3.00%, oxybenzone 2.00%.

Ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified, dimethicone, butylene, glycol, isononyl isononanoate, silica, glycerin, polyglyceryl-2 triisostearate, polysilicone-11, laminaria saccharina extract, triticum vulgare (wheat bran) extract, olea europaea (olive) fruit extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, sea whip extract, adenosine phosphate, trehalose, disodium nadh, creatine, sodium rna, caffeine, nordihydroguaiaretic acid, sodium dna, phytosphingosine, linoleic acid, cholesterol, ferulic acid, ascorbyl tocopheryl maleate, sodium hyaluronate, aminopropyl ascorbyl phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, sucrose,micrococcus lysate, astrocaryum murumuru butter, lauryldimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein, lecithin, tridecyl trimellitate, hexylene glycol, ethylhexyl stearate, ethylhexyl pamitate, propylene glycol dicaprate, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), zerolite, maltodextrin, c1-8 alkyl tetrahydroxycyclohexanoate, caprylyl glycol, polyethylene, hydroxyethylcellulose, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, pvp, laureth-4, laureth-23, polysorbate 20, ammunium acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp copolymer, tromethamine, disodium edta, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben.

Thanks so much for your help!

[jackie100]

This Clinique cream does not contain any photostable UV-filter nor has any UVA protection.
If I were you I would use Clinique: Continous Resque Antioxidant Moisturizer + a sunscreen sold in the EU!

I have been reading the board for awhile and I have read that the great sunscreens right now in the U.S are La Roche Posay, Neutrogena (Helioplex) and L'Oreal.
I am basically looking for a day cream that has SPF of anywhere from 20-25 (I know it's bad but I like to tan a TEENY bit) but with a lot of anti-oxidants
and I would prefer something more high end and not drug store. If I HAVE to I would use a separate moisturizer and then sunscreen on top but I would prefer
to use just one product because I am lazy.

Right now I am using Chanel Rectifiance cream which has spf of 15 and is also very moisturizing but I am looking to try something different.

I have been reading reviews over at Makeupalley and the only problem I have with La Roche Posay is that it might too oily for me... I don't really like Neutrogena for my face, for my body it's ok but I need something with antioxidants.

These are the active ingedients and other ingredients for the Clinique... Are they sufficient do you think?? Is this considered a "stable" sunscreen?? Is the protection adequate?

Active Ingredients: octinoxate 7.40%, avobenzone 3.00%, oxybenzone 2.00%.

Ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified, dimethicone, butylene, glycol, isononyl isononanoate, silica, glycerin, polyglyceryl-2 triisostearate, polysilicone-11, laminaria saccharina extract, triticum vulgare (wheat bran) extract, olea europaea (olive) fruit extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, sea whip extract, adenosine phosphate, trehalose, disodium nadh, creatine, sodium rna, caffeine, nordihydroguaiaretic acid, sodium dna, phytosphingosine, linoleic acid, cholesterol, ferulic acid, ascorbyl tocopheryl maleate, sodium hyaluronate, aminopropyl ascorbyl phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, sucrose,micrococcus lysate, astrocaryum murumuru butter, lauryldimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein, lecithin, tridecyl trimellitate, hexylene glycol, ethylhexyl stearate, ethylhexyl pamitate, propylene glycol dicaprate, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), zerolite, maltodextrin, c1-8 alkyl tetrahydroxycyclohexanoate, caprylyl glycol, polyethylene, hydroxyethylcellulose, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, pvp, laureth-4, laureth-23, polysorbate 20, ammunium acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp copolymer, tromethamine, disodium edta, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben.

Thanks so much for your help!

Wow, that's not good at all. I just assumed it would have UVA protection; on the Clinique website it says that it does :

Patent-pending* moisturizer bridges the evolution gap between your skin’s natural defenses and the demands of today’s environment. Enriched with a complex of ingredients proven to help skin defend itself. Helps neutralize the negative effects of UVA/UVB rays. Makes SPF alone seem almost primitive.
Meet the Future Now.

I wwill probably use a separate moisturizer (I am thinking about DHC Q10) with a Neutrogena sunscreen on top. I have the Neutrogena ultra sheer dry touch spf 30. It's supposed to cover UVA and UVB. It doesn't have helioplex because it's spf30, to be honest I didn't want to get the spf 45 because I want to tan a TEENY bit and I'm afraid of spf 45 leaving somewhat of a white cast on my face.... the spf 30 ultra sheer dry touch from Neutrogena should be ok even tho it doesn't have helioplex right?

Is it possible to tan a little bit with spf 30? I read that 30 spf doesn't block all rays but like 97 percent of them so technically you would still get tan, just a lot slower right?

Thanks so much for your help!!

Edited by jackie100, 02 June 2008 - 08:57 PM.

[spacetime]

This Clinique cream does not contain any photostable UV-filter nor has any UVA protection.
If I were you I would use Clinique: Continous Resque Antioxidant Moisturizer + a sunscreen sold in the EU!

I have been reading the board for awhile and I have read that the great sunscreens right now in the U.S are La Roche Posay, Neutrogena (Helioplex) and L'Oreal.
I am basically looking for a day cream that has SPF of anywhere from 20-25 (I know it's bad but I like to tan a TEENY bit) but with a lot of anti-oxidants
and I would prefer something more high end and not drug store. If I HAVE to I would use a separate moisturizer and then sunscreen on top but I would prefer
to use just one product because I am lazy.

Right now I am using Chanel Rectifiance cream which has spf of 15 and is also very moisturizing but I am looking to try something different.

I have been reading reviews over at Makeupalley and the only problem I have with La Roche Posay is that it might too oily for me... I don't really like Neutrogena for my face, for my body it's ok but I need something with antioxidants.

These are the active ingedients and other ingredients for the Clinique... Are they sufficient do you think?? Is this considered a "stable" sunscreen?? Is the protection adequate?

Active Ingredients: octinoxate 7.40%, avobenzone 3.00%, oxybenzone 2.00%.

Ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified, dimethicone, butylene, glycol, isononyl isononanoate, silica, glycerin, polyglyceryl-2 triisostearate, polysilicone-11, laminaria saccharina extract, triticum vulgare (wheat bran) extract, olea europaea (olive) fruit extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, sea whip extract, adenosine phosphate, trehalose, disodium nadh, creatine, sodium rna, caffeine, nordihydroguaiaretic acid, sodium dna, phytosphingosine, linoleic acid, cholesterol, ferulic acid, ascorbyl tocopheryl maleate, sodium hyaluronate, aminopropyl ascorbyl phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, sucrose,micrococcus lysate, astrocaryum murumuru butter, lauryldimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein, lecithin, tridecyl trimellitate, hexylene glycol, ethylhexyl stearate, ethylhexyl pamitate, propylene glycol dicaprate, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), zerolite, maltodextrin, c1-8 alkyl tetrahydroxycyclohexanoate, caprylyl glycol, polyethylene, hydroxyethylcellulose, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, pvp, laureth-4, laureth-23, polysorbate 20, ammunium acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp copolymer, tromethamine, disodium edta, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben.

Thanks so much for your help!

Wow, that's not good at all. I just assumed it would have UVA protection; on the Clinique website it says that it does :

Patent-pending* moisturizer bridges the evolution gap between your skin’s natural defenses and the demands of today’s environment. Enriched with a complex of ingredients proven to help skin defend itself. Helps neutralize the negative effects of UVA/UVB rays. Makes SPF alone seem almost primitive.
Meet the Future Now.

I wwill probably use a separate moisturizer (I am thinking about DHC Q10) with a Neutrogena sunscreen on top. I have the Neutrogena ultra sheer dry touch spf 30. It's supposed to cover UVA and UVB. It doesn't have helioplex because it's spf30, to be honest I didn't want to get the spf 45 because I want to tan a TEENY bit and I'm afraid of spf 45 leaving somewhat of a white cast on my face.... the spf 30 ultra sheer dry touch from Neutrogena should be ok even tho it doesn't have helioplex right?

Is it possible to tan a little bit with spf 30? I read that 30 spf doesn't block all rays but like 97 percent of them so technically you would still get tan, just a lot slower right?

Thanks so much for your help!!

If you notice it says "Helps neutralize the negative effects of UVA" which I'm guessing the attribute to the anti-oxs. This doesn't mean it contains anyhting to block or prevent the UVA damage though. And as we all know it's much better to prevent the damage rather than trying to repair it. Mexoryl SX if available stateside but only protects upto 380nm, I think. XL would protect past this to cover hte UVA spectrum. Avobenzone also protects in UVA but again incomplete. Zinc Oxide protects to 280 too so I suppose you could get something with protection above that and be fine as well.

Eva said Nivea Light Sensation SPF30 had a nice matte finish suitable for the face but I can't fidn any retailer aside fro mteh french one that offers it. I tried importing bioderma photoderm fluide 50+ but customs snagged it so now I'm left trying to find a suitable yet inferior domestic sunscreen. I'm gonna roll the dice and try to obtain the LA Roche Psay fluid extreme 50+ from a Canadian vendor and hope things go better. But it's oily finish will discourage use on face so I might stick with the Neutrogena Helioplex will suffice for facial use. Hopefully the cleansers, retinols and anti-oxs will offset the inadequate UVA sunscreen protection.

I also wonder what you all use to remove these greasy/oily sunscreens. I have to use soap but it dries out my face quite a bit and whilethe Cerave cream helps restore moisture I'd rather not use something so harsh like hand/bodysoap.

[Eva Victoria]

If you read my previous posts on UVA/Sun/Sunprotection you'll find all the answers you are looking for

Ataching the graph for Clinique: Superdefence.
It is low in UVA protection as well as extremely photounstable as a filter.

This Clinique cream does not contain any photostable UV-filter nor has any UVA protection.
If I were you I would use Clinique: Continous Resque Antioxidant Moisturizer + a sunscreen sold in the EU!

I have been reading the board for awhile and I have read that the great sunscreens right now in the U.S are La Roche Posay, Neutrogena (Helioplex) and L'Oreal.
I am basically looking for a day cream that has SPF of anywhere from 20-25 (I know it's bad but I like to tan a TEENY bit) but with a lot of anti-oxidants
and I would prefer something more high end and not drug store. If I HAVE to I would use a separate moisturizer and then sunscreen on top but I would prefer
to use just one product because I am lazy.

Right now I am using Chanel Rectifiance cream which has spf of 15 and is also very moisturizing but I am looking to try something different.

I have been reading reviews over at Makeupalley and the only problem I have with La Roche Posay is that it might too oily for me... I don't really like Neutrogena for my face, for my body it's ok but I need something with antioxidants.

These are the active ingedients and other ingredients for the Clinique... Are they sufficient do you think?? Is this considered a "stable" sunscreen?? Is the protection adequate?

Active Ingredients: octinoxate 7.40%, avobenzone 3.00%, oxybenzone 2.00%.

Ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified, dimethicone, butylene, glycol, isononyl isononanoate, silica, glycerin, polyglyceryl-2 triisostearate, polysilicone-11, laminaria saccharina extract, triticum vulgare (wheat bran) extract, olea europaea (olive) fruit extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, sea whip extract, adenosine phosphate, trehalose, disodium nadh, creatine, sodium rna, caffeine, nordihydroguaiaretic acid, sodium dna, phytosphingosine, linoleic acid, cholesterol, ferulic acid, ascorbyl tocopheryl maleate, sodium hyaluronate, aminopropyl ascorbyl phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, sucrose,micrococcus lysate, astrocaryum murumuru butter, lauryldimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein, lecithin, tridecyl trimellitate, hexylene glycol, ethylhexyl stearate, ethylhexyl pamitate, propylene glycol dicaprate, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), zerolite, maltodextrin, c1-8 alkyl tetrahydroxycyclohexanoate, caprylyl glycol, polyethylene, hydroxyethylcellulose, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, pvp, laureth-4, laureth-23, polysorbate 20, ammunium acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp copolymer, tromethamine, disodium edta, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben.

Thanks so much for your help!

Wow, that's not good at all. I just assumed it would have UVA protection; on the Clinique website it says that it does :

Patent-pending* moisturizer bridges the evolution gap between your skin's natural defenses and the demands of today's environment. Enriched with a complex of ingredients proven to help skin defend itself. Helps neutralize the negative effects of UVA/UVB rays. Makes SPF alone seem almost primitive.
Meet the Future Now.

I wwill probably use a separate moisturizer (I am thinking about DHC Q10) with a Neutrogena sunscreen on top. I have the Neutrogena ultra sheer dry touch spf 30. It's supposed to cover UVA and UVB. It doesn't have helioplex because it's spf30, to be honest I didn't want to get the spf 45 because I want to tan a TEENY bit and I'm afraid of spf 45 leaving somewhat of a white cast on my face.... the spf 30 ultra sheer dry touch from Neutrogena should be ok even tho it doesn't have helioplex right?

Is it possible to tan a little bit with spf 30? I read that 30 spf doesn't block all rays but like 97 percent of them so technically you would still get tan, just a lot slower right?

Thanks so much for your help!!

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Edited by Eva Victoria, 03 June 2008 - 03:58 PM.

[Eva Victoria]

I have found 2 SS comercially available:

Nivea Light Feeling Sensation SPF50+ UVA 20(OMC, TinosorbS, AVO, TiO2, Ensulizole, Ethylhexyl Tirazone with Microbeeds: OMC+AVO: it makes the sunscreen stay on the surface of the skin and gives a beautiful semi-matte finish to the skin that actually looks better than with make-up on!)

Bioderma: Photoderm MAX Fluide SPF50+ UVA 35 with TinosorbM+S, AVO, OCR

These Sunscreens are only available in the EU! Both follow the recommended European Sunscreen Standards! (See Colipa)
Can be order online with shipping to the US

http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk

http://www.frenchcosmeticsforless.com

This Clinique cream does not contain any photostable UV-filter nor has any UVA protection.
If I were you I would use Clinique: Continous Resque Antioxidant Moisturizer + a sunscreen sold in the EU!

I have been reading the board for awhile and I have read that the great sunscreens right now in the U.S are La Roche Posay, Neutrogena (Helioplex) and L'Oreal.
I am basically looking for a day cream that has SPF of anywhere from 20-25 (I know it's bad but I like to tan a TEENY bit) but with a lot of anti-oxidants
and I would prefer something more high end and not drug store. If I HAVE to I would use a separate moisturizer and then sunscreen on top but I would prefer
to use just one product because I am lazy.

Right now I am using Chanel Rectifiance cream which has spf of 15 and is also very moisturizing but I am looking to try something different.

I have been reading reviews over at Makeupalley and the only problem I have with La Roche Posay is that it might too oily for me... I don't really like Neutrogena for my face, for my body it's ok but I need something with antioxidants.

These are the active ingedients and other ingredients for the Clinique... Are they sufficient do you think?? Is this considered a "stable" sunscreen?? Is the protection adequate?

Active Ingredients: octinoxate 7.40%, avobenzone 3.00%, oxybenzone 2.00%.

Ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified, dimethicone, butylene, glycol, isononyl isononanoate, silica, glycerin, polyglyceryl-2 triisostearate, polysilicone-11, laminaria saccharina extract, triticum vulgare (wheat bran) extract, olea europaea (olive) fruit extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, sea whip extract, adenosine phosphate, trehalose, disodium nadh, creatine, sodium rna, caffeine, nordihydroguaiaretic acid, sodium dna, phytosphingosine, linoleic acid, cholesterol, ferulic acid, ascorbyl tocopheryl maleate, sodium hyaluronate, aminopropyl ascorbyl phosphate, tocopheryl acetate, sucrose,micrococcus lysate, astrocaryum murumuru butter, lauryldimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed soy protein, lecithin, tridecyl trimellitate, hexylene glycol, ethylhexyl stearate, ethylhexyl pamitate, propylene glycol dicaprate, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), zerolite, maltodextrin, c1-8 alkyl tetrahydroxycyclohexanoate, caprylyl glycol, polyethylene, hydroxyethylcellulose, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, pvp, laureth-4, laureth-23, polysorbate 20, ammunium acryloyldimethyltaurate/vp copolymer, tromethamine, disodium edta, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol, methylparaben.

Thanks so much for your help!

Wow, that's not good at all. I just assumed it would have UVA protection; on the Clinique website it says that it does :

Patent-pending* moisturizer bridges the evolution gap between your skin's natural defenses and the demands of today's environment. Enriched with a complex of ingredients proven to help skin defend itself. Helps neutralize the negative effects of UVA/UVB rays. Makes SPF alone seem almost primitive.
Meet the Future Now.

I wwill probably use a separate moisturizer (I am thinking about DHC Q10) with a Neutrogena sunscreen on top. I have the Neutrogena ultra sheer dry touch spf 30. It's supposed to cover UVA and UVB. It doesn't have helioplex because it's spf30, to be honest I didn't want to get the spf 45 because I want to tan a TEENY bit and I'm afraid of spf 45 leaving somewhat of a white cast on my face.... the spf 30 ultra sheer dry touch from Neutrogena should be ok even tho it doesn't have helioplex right?

Is it possible to tan a little bit with spf 30? I read that 30 spf doesn't block all rays but like 97 percent of them so technically you would still get tan, just a lot slower right?

Thanks so much for your help!!

If you notice it says "Helps neutralize the negative effects of UVA" which I'm guessing the attribute to the anti-oxs. This doesn't mean it contains anyhting to block or prevent the UVA damage though. And as we all know it's much better to prevent the damage rather than trying to repair it. Mexoryl SX if available stateside but only protects upto 380nm, I think. XL would protect past this to cover hte UVA spectrum. Avobenzone also protects in UVA but again incomplete. Zinc Oxide protects to 280 too so I suppose you could get something with protection above that and be fine as well.

Eva said Nivea Light Sensation SPF30 had a nice matte finish suitable for the face but I can't fidn any retailer aside fro mteh french one that offers it. I tried importing bioderma photoderm fluide 50+ but customs snagged it so now I'm left trying to find a suitable yet inferior domestic sunscreen. I'm gonna roll the dice and try to obtain the LA Roche Psay fluid extreme 50+ from a Canadian vendor and hope things go better. But it's oily finish will discourage use on face so I might stick with the Neutrogena Helioplex will suffice for facial use. Hopefully the cleansers, retinols and anti-oxs will offset the inadequate UVA sunscreen protection.

I also wonder what you all use to remove these greasy/oily sunscreens. I have to use soap but it dries out my face quite a bit and whilethe Cerave cream helps restore moisture I'd rather not use something so harsh like hand/bodysoap.