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Poll: Most effective nootropic - by majority vote (165 member(s) have cast votes)

What nootropic do you find the most effective?

  1. Piracetam (60 votes [23.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.26%

  2. DMAE (8 votes [3.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.10%

  3. Centrophenoxine (7 votes [2.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.71%

  4. Hydergine (10 votes [3.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.88%

  5. Alpha-GPC (19 votes [7.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.36%

  6. Choline (6 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  7. Aniracetam (22 votes [8.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.53%

  8. ALCAR (33 votes [12.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.79%

  9. Citicoline (23 votes [8.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.91%

  10. Choline bitartrate (4 votes [1.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.55%

  11. Choline citrate (3 votes [1.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.16%

  12. Galantamine (7 votes [2.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.71%

  13. Huperzine A (10 votes [3.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.88%

  14. Lecithin (5 votes [1.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.94%

  15. None (41 votes [15.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.89%

What nootropic do you find the most effective? continued

  1. Etiracetam (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Nefiracetam (4 votes [2.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.13%

  3. Oxiracetam (25 votes [13.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.30%

  4. Pramiracetam (27 votes [14.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.36%

  5. Vitamin B5 (7 votes [3.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.72%

  6. Donepezil (4 votes [2.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.13%

  7. Mucuna pruriens (2 votes [1.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.06%

  8. Tyrosine (18 votes [9.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.57%

  9. Lazabemide (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. L-dopa (2 votes [1.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.06%

  11. Phenylalanine (5 votes [2.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.66%

  12. Selegiline (22 votes [11.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.70%

  13. Tolcapone (1 votes [0.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.53%

  14. Yohimbe (2 votes [1.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.06%

  15. None (69 votes [36.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.70%

What nootropic do you find the most effective? continued

  1. Griffonia simplicifolia (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Tryptophan (4 votes [1.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.97%

  3. LSD (20 votes [9.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.85%

  4. 2C-T-7 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Ashwagandha (8 votes [3.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.94%

  6. Inositol (9 votes [4.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.43%

  7. Kava kava (3 votes [1.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.48%

  8. Lemon Balm (3 votes [1.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.48%

  9. Passion Flower (2 votes [0.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.99%

  10. Rhodiola Rosea (23 votes [11.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.33%

  11. St John's Wort (9 votes [4.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.43%

  12. Ginseng (16 votes [7.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.88%

  13. Tea (29 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  14. Theanine (14 votes [6.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.90%

  15. None (63 votes [31.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.03%

What nootropic do you find the most effective? continued

  1. Vasopressin (4 votes [1.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.79%

  2. Vitis vinifera (1 votes [0.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.45%

  3. SSRIs (7 votes [3.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.12%

  4. Coenzyme q-10 (10 votes [4.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.46%

  5. Creatine (11 votes [4.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.91%

  6. Lipoic acid (4 votes [1.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.79%

  7. Pyritinol (8 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  8. Vinpocetine (10 votes [4.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.46%

  9. Prazosin (2 votes [0.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.89%

  10. Adrafinil (6 votes [2.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.68%

  11. Caffeine (51 votes [22.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.77%

  12. Coffee (31 votes [13.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.84%

  13. Nicergoline (3 votes [1.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.34%

  14. Nicotine (27 votes [12.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.05%

  15. None (49 votes [21.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.88%

What nootropic do you find the most effective? continu

  1. Methylphenidate (21 votes [9.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.72%

  2. Dextroamphetamine (22 votes [10.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.19%

  3. Modafinil (45 votes [20.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.83%

  4. Phenibut (8 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  5. Theophylline (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Amphetamine (16 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  7. Carphedon (2 votes [0.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.93%

  8. Brahmi (12 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  9. Cannabis (22 votes [10.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.19%

  10. Xanthinol Nicotinate (2 votes [0.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.93%

  11. Idebenone (7 votes [3.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.24%

  12. Rasagiline (4 votes [1.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.85%

  13. Fipexide (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  14. Pemoline (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  15. Other (55 votes [25.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.46%

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#61 (unnamed member)

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 10:29 AM

I've read that LSD has destructive effects on the brain, and that heavy users experience a deterioration of personality. I would have tried it, were it not for that. And I've never heard this corroborated by actual users though, unlike MDMA where this is very common knowledge. Have you experienced of any long term negative effects you attribute to LSD?



Haven't read the other posts past this one, but I want to chime in on this. Loss of personality is a very real thing, as I've experienced it (not due to LSD but 2c-e) and it has psychologically battered me for over two years. LSD and 2c-e and other serotonergic psychedelics typically do not cause any real neurotoxicity, what they do is cause changes in perception that can be lasting or permanent due to changing one's thought patterns. This is what I experienced. It was almost as if a large part of everything I had ever learned about people, myself, etc, had been magically erased. And it just didn't come back. Never came back. I'm on the tail end of dealing with the depersonalization I had been experiencing, but the only way I have relearned the things I previously knew (and had as basic social rules, etc) was through trying to force myself to relearn it. It has been -extraordinarily- difficult. I can't even comprehend why it happened to me, as it never happened to any of my friends that had taken it, but it was just fucked up.

Depersonalization due to psychedelics is a terrible, terrible, terrible, horrifying thing. I cannot imagine any other worse psychological trauma other than perhaps inducing schizophrenia. It makes you hate everything about your life and your inability to go back to where you were, forces constant rumination over "oh if only I had never done that, I would be perfectly fine right now" all of that crap.

It's really, really terrible. LSD isn't as bad as 2c-e as far as I'm concerned, but I know of people that HAVE experienced on LSD what I've experienced on 2c-e. I did it when I was 17, and feel as if that was what made it much worse. I believe it's less likely if taking psychedelics later in life, after having fully established a sense of self--which I had not fully established by the time I experimented with psychedelics.


Edit:

Another note to make is that it seems my serotonergic system has been screwed up terribly in one way or another, and as such I've found 5-htp to be very useful in reducing symptoms of anxiety/inducing a feeling of normality.

I'd like to point out that you were like halfway there if you know what I mean. I dropped some 50-60 mg of 4-aco-dmt like 2 years ago. It completely destroyed whatever you want to fill up in the subject predicate called "I". I had a very hard time after this as society engraved into me that I have to be this or that. I came to terms that I permanently altered myself and have learned to move on. Is regret going to change anything? No. There really is no going back, just memories.

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#62 Roshambo

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:32 PM

Another nootropic which I find is really effective is ginkgo biloba. Wonder why its not on the poll.



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