I hope this answers some of your questions. Now, maybe you could answer mine?
No Caliban, It does not answer my questions, but we’ll get back to that. Let me address your quote
I am still unclear whether the Venturists/ the Cryonics Society are happy to receive money for vitamin purchases?
First of all Caliban, I couldn’t tell that this even was a question directed toward me. It looks more like a statement than a specific request for information from me. But now that I know that it is a question directed toward me, I will happily answer that.
The answer to your question is, “I have no idea.” If you want a solid yes or no answer to that question you would need to ask those groups, or perhaps Dave Pizer would be the best person to ask as he is the one who started the fundraiser along with Robert Ettinger. I will say this, I have no reason to believe that they would be willing to collect money for vitamins, they are to the best of my knowledge only concerned with the purchase of liquid nitrogen. I would have to say (and I’m speculating here) that they would not be willing to receive money for vitamin purchases.
If the answer to that question is 'yes' then further discussion is of limited urgency, if not we have to find another way quickly of transferring funds, which have already been pledged to that specific purpose.
However are you going to do that quickly without a board meeting?
Now, back to the question I’m trying to get answered.
You Wrote
Bill, I'm sorry you are still concerned. To clarify: the position that I outline first and foremost a matter of ImmInst governance. This requires that the board makes these decisisons, and in this case the board has not made a decision. That is why I wrote: until sanctioned by a board vote this initiative should not be misconstrued as an official ImmInst project.
This doesn’t clarify things. If it’s a matter of “ImmInst governance” than somewhere, reduced to writing is the policy or procedure that regulates this. Where is it? If this requires the board to make a decision, than point me to that policy or procedure. I’m looking for the mechanism that regulates this.
What your really saying is that Mind had no business setting this up because he had no authority to do so. And if that’s the case, I agree that it should be pulled. If this is the case we should fix the error swiftly, and because clearly Mind’s heart was in the right place and although may have overstepped his authority, certainly nothing unethical to debate here. Let’s just correct the error and move on.
However, I think that as a community, ImmInst can and should allow you to provide information about your situation which is why I wrote
The Institute can run newsitems and discussions pertaining to that issue, and we can allow people to solicit donations.
I don’t require Imminst permission (even in the non freedom of speech areas) to provide information about my situation. And the as for running discussions pertaining to this issue, several members have and are running discussions about this, they did not seek, nor did they need Imminst approval. And on the issue of allowing people to solicit donations, as Missminni has amply demonstrated, there isn’t really much you can do to stop it.
You keep talking about all these things that Imminst can do, the problem Caliban, is that these things have already been done.
