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#1 dlefkowitz

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Posted 14 December 2008 - 02:49 PM


Is there a simple way to visualize the output of my work unit on my computer? I've found the following link: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/, but it's a bit intimidating. Does it work? Or is there an easier way?
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Posted 14 December 2008 - 04:33 PM

Is there a simple way to visualize the output of my work unit on my computer?

Not sure, but think you are folding with Mac OS X .

There was a earlier version of the F@H client (called "Graphical") that showed the molecule as it folded. The molecule image moved rather slowly as the CPU processed/folded it. It seems Stanford is abandoning the graphical client (the previous one may still be available, I cannot access the site at the moment to check).

Some guesses as to why Stanford has not developed a new versions of the Graphical regular client:

1. Graphical display requires development effort
(Stanford group is fundamentally a biochemistry research group, with limited software development resources).
2. Graphical display adds complexity and likelihood of problems for the user.
3. Graphical display can use a bit of computer resources,
(Although on many computers, most but not all of it can be off loaded to a Graphics card.)
4. The latest developments involve GPU processing (GPUs boards and PS3s) which can natively provide graphics.

I've found the following link: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/, but it's a bit intimidating. Does it work?


Jmol works, just not sure it can communicate with F@H client to show protein as it folds. Jmol is a serious teaching & research tool to observe and manipulate molecule shapes and configurations (has interactive capability).

Or is there an easier way?

A search revealed few (third party) possibilities. The Folding forum has a list here, look under 'Visualization'. Seems most are no longer being developed or updated.

You might try InCrease.

InCrease - has a molecule viewer for FAH (I used this a few years ago, it has many other features for a Mac).

Screenshot: F@H molecule folding , scroll down.

Download here: InCrease

Team Mac OS X Forums can probably provide help & advice with InCrease.

Calxalot, the developer of InCrease used to post there and seems very helpful.

#3 dlefkowitz

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 05:03 AM

Thanks. You're correct about my being Mac based, but I've had laptop heating and fan noise issues that have shut me down after 1 work unit. I'm trying to get my employer to agree to allow use of my work computer (Windows) off hours.

The only motivation behind my questions is that I think it would be kinda cool to see the protein I've folded, that's all. I won't be pursuing this further unless I get to F@W (fold at work).
Dave

Is there a simple way to visualize the output of my work unit on my computer?

Not sure, but think you are folding with Mac OS X .

There was a earlier version of the F@H client (called "Graphical") that showed the molecule as it folded. The molecule image moved rather slowly as the CPU processed/folded it. It seems Stanford is abandoning the graphical client (the previous one may still be available, I cannot access the site at the moment to check).

Some guesses as to why Stanford has not developed a new versions of the Graphical regular client:

1. Graphical display requires development effort
(Stanford group is fundamentally a biochemistry research group, with limited software development resources).
2. Graphical display adds complexity and likelihood of problems for the user.
3. Graphical display can use a bit of computer resources,
(Although on many computers, most but not all of it can be off loaded to a Graphics card.)
4. The latest developments involve GPU processing (GPUs boards and PS3s) which can natively provide graphics.

I've found the following link: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/, but it's a bit intimidating. Does it work?


Jmol works, just not sure it can communicate with F@H client to show protein as it folds. Jmol is a serious teaching & research tool to observe and manipulate molecule shapes and configurations (has interactive capability).

Or is there an easier way?

A search revealed few (third party) possibilities. The Folding forum has a list here, look under 'Visualization'. Seems most are no longer being developed or updated.

You might try InCrease.

InCrease - has a molecule viewer for FAH (I used this a few years ago, it has many other features for a Mac).

Screenshot: F@H molecule folding , scroll down.

Download here: InCrease

Team Mac OS X Forums can probably provide help & advice with InCrease.

Calxalot, the developer of InCrease used to post there and seems very helpful.



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Posted 15 December 2008 - 06:36 AM

The only motivation behind my questions is that I think it would be kinda cool to see the protein I've folded, that's all. I won't be pursuing this further unless I get to F@W (fold at work).

If all you want to do is see the protein at the beginning and end of the run, That shouldn't be an incredibly difficult problem. The software that FAH is based on used to be capable of converting its coordinate files to PDB format, which would allow you to use one of the PDB viewers out there. I don't know if FAH maintains this capability, though.




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