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#1 youandme

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 04:35 AM


http://www.lukecology.blogspot.com/
The FDA has stopped the worm therapy in the US
Apparently they class helminths as Drugs.

LOL...I just ate a yogurt...next thing to get banned ?

I get it and I dont get it..its one thing to shut the treatment down..
however they could have worked with the provider to set regulations..rather
than just stop it dead.

#2 niner

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 05:19 AM

That sucks. Apparently it sets things back to the way they were a few years ago when you had to deal with overseas suppliers. It will probably be possible to get around. I learned that there is a Wormie Community out there who evangelize about the use of worms. I know there's been some great success with Crohn's, but it sounds like some other autoimmune conditions may benefit as well.

I wonder why these things are considered "drugs"? They seem closer to the natural products that would be regulated as supplements. Parasitic Helminth == Drug???

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#3 youandme

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 09:26 AM

Yes please ..

Can anyone explain how a natural living organism is classed as a drug ???

Its interesting to note that leeches and maggots are not classed as drugs by the FDA !

http://www.usatoday....s-maggots_x.htm

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 12:45 PM

Yes please ..

Can anyone explain how a natural living organism is classed as a drug ???

Its interesting to note that leeches and maggots are not classed as drugs by the FDA !

http://www.usatoday....s-maggots_x.htm


It's the same way as regulating a "device" or other therapies; if it's claimed to have a medical outcome, they can regulate it.
The availability of so many supplements in the US is due to Senator Orin Hatch, mainly. The act he sponsored allows the sale of any supplement that was already marketed before 1993 or so.

#5 Blue

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 03:18 PM

Hm. Many new supplements after 1993. I think that they simply made too strong claims on their website.

"Who Can be Helped by this type of immunotherapy, Helminthic Therapy? It is possible that anyone with a chronic inflammatory condition, or one involving immune dysregulation, could benefit. But, it is impossible to predict in advance if a person with an autoimmune disease and or allergy will respond. The only way to test it is to try helminthic therapy. Diseases that have been shown to respond are: Asthma, Autism, Crohn's Disease, Ulcerative Colitis, Eczema, Hay fever and allergies of all kinds, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Migraine, Multiple Sclerosis, Psoriasis, and Sjogren's Syndrome. Response of patients with Ulcerative Colitis to hookworm alone has not been satisfactory, but has responded very well to whipworm. It is important to note that while effective immunotherapy like ours offers a chance of remission, not a cure. Meaning, that if you get better staying better depends on continuing to host the worms."

"Is the immunotherapy safe?Yes, the only problems described in the medical literature associated with the organisms we use are all associated with very large numbers of worms, a lack of access to medical care, and malnutrition. Problems have only been described in the world's poorest citizens, those earning around one to two dollars per day, and only then when either enormous numbers of worms are present (many hundreds or thousands) or when the unfortunate individual is malnourished. Having a therapeutic dose of hookworm, while maintaining a healthy western diet poses no risk to you. The organisms we use are so benign that the Center for Disease Control in America recommends that people not be treated for light infections,which is all we sell. Our methods ensure that helminthic therapy immunotherapy is very well tolerated. When we started providing immunotherapy we did not havethe experience we do now and some people got stomach upset and experienced bad diarrhea. That is much less likely now, and if you follow our advice we can guarantee you will not experience any side effects. Anyone with a chronic infection, HIV, Hepatitis, Herpes, Lyme's disease, have to consider the immunosuppressive effects of helminthic therapy and its possible impact on their body's ability to suppress anactive infection. Some of our clients with Herpes have reported more frequent outbreaks, but not all. People who are HIV positive or have some other serious chronic and incurable infection will be refused treatment."

"What are the potential side-affects- Side effects are rare and consist of diarrhea, fatigue, an itch at the inoculation site for hookworm, and gas. Side effects are temporary, and can occur for up to eight weeks. Only about ten percent of those we treat experience anything more than the itch, some minor episodes of fatigue and a day or two of mild diarrhea."

"Can I infect my family and friends. No, absolutely not. This was another primary concern of ours when selecting which organisms to use. In the United States, Western Europe and in all other industrialized countries use of the most basic sanitary precautions (toilets, shoes) means that you can not inadvertently infect other people or yourself."

" Is this type of immunotherapy effective? Very, in our experience. While the number we have treated is relatively large in that we have treated more people for more conditions than anyone else, our results are not statistically reliable because in statistical terms our client population is small."

"How much does it cost and what do I have to do to be treated? Prices start at $2,900.00 for basic therapy based on either hookworm or whipworm. Combination therapy, using both organisms, is priced at $3,900.00. All are available via delivery to your home. You may also travel to California, USA, or to Lancaster, England to be inoculated by us if you prefer. We now offer financing options to make this therapy more accessible, and we offer a program where for diseases we want to treat payment is conditional on success, please contact us for details."

Edited by Blue, 15 November 2009 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2009 - 04:48 PM

Quite right, blue. Had they said nothing that could be construed as a medical claim, the FDA might have left them alone. They could maybe still sell the worms as pets.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 05:25 AM

Quite right, blue. Had they said nothing that could be construed as a medical claim, the FDA might have left them alone. They could maybe still sell the worms as pets.

lol. Well, at the prices they're charging, maybe the FDA is doing people a favor. My recollection of the cost of worms from a different company (not sure where located) was more like $500. God, that site was just shot full of claims. Don't they usually just send a cease and desist order telling them to halt the claims?

#8 youandme

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 07:22 AM

blue

Curious ...where did you get that information from...what website ?
I thought the prices were more like what niner was saying.



My understanding is that the FDA has looked and classified helminths as a 'drug' and this has happened for no other reason despite everyones concerns etc.

This idea is backed up by another company offering a similar service..see from here...
http://wormtherapy.com/faq.html#faq5


"Do I have to go to Mexico?
Yes, the laws are very restrictive in this regard. The FDA has ruled that intestinal worms used to regulate the immune system are a drug. Any drug that has not passed the FDA's review process is an experimental and therefore illegal drug in the United States. The FDA allows, via the personal import policy, for patients in which there is no comparable therapy to import a drug started under the direction of a physician in a foreign country for personal use. It should be noted that the FDA reserves the right to change this policy at any time. The personal import policy is not a right or law but rather an enforcement reprioritization. Should they change their mind they can do so without notice."



The charges for these services are really quite reasonable :) .... if they make you better....

Guys are you not aware of the cost of Biological Medicines !? :)
.....and yes/no Biologicals.. they dont always work..and yes they can give you cancers or organ failures !


Again ..how can an organism be classified as a drug ??

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#9 GHARUR

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 05:30 AM

It's been classed as a drug because IT WORKS!!!! Helminths CANNOT be patented as they are a natural organism, therefore billions can't be made from them. Big Pharma know this. FDA=Big Pharma. Put 2 and 2 together. Imagine the billions big pharma would loose if this treatment went main stream.

This treatment has already been proven in numerous studies, some of which were undertaken in Nottingham University and Townsville Hospital in Australia. And in fact, because Helminths stop the immune system from attacking itself, if there are any cancer cells, it is then free to attack them and not the body.

Check out this study in Australia for Coeliac Disease.

http://www.abc.net.a...ies/2823795.htm

THIS TREATMENT WORKS, you only have to ask anyone who's tried it to find that out... Join the yahoo helminthic therapy group and ask people questions who've tried it.

It's also being investigated with MS, which has shown amazing results too.

I suggest you all educate yourselves on the hygiene theory and the case studies on populations in poorer, "dirtier" countries. They just don't suffer from auto immune diseases at all. But when they come to westernised countries, that changes.

Gary




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