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#1 Reno

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:44 PM


What do a car engine, a power plant, a factory and a solar panel have in common? They all generate heat – a lot of which is wasted.

University of Arizona physicists have discovered a new way of harvesting waste heat and turning it into electrical power.
Using a theoretical model of a so-called molecular thermoelectric device, the technology holds great promise for making cars, power plants, factories and solar panels more efficient, to name a few possible applications. In addition, more efficient thermoelectric materials would make ozone-depleting chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, obsolete.

The research group led by Charles Stafford, associate professor of physics, published its findings in the September issue of the scientific journal, ACS Nano ("Giant Thermoelectric Effect from Transmission Supernodes").

"Thermoelectricity makes it possible to cleanly convert heat directly into electrical energy in a device with no moving parts," said lead author Justin Bergfield, a doctoral candidate in the UA College of Optical Sciences.

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A "forest" of molecules holds the promise of turning waste heat into electricity. UA physicists discovered that because of quantum effects, electron waves traveling along the backbone of each molecule interfere with each other, leading to the buildup of a voltage between the hot and cold electrodes (the golden structures on the bottom and top). (Rendering by Justin Bergfield)

"Our colleagues in the field tell us they are pretty confident that the devices we have designed on the computer can be built with the characteristics that we see in our simulations."

"We anticipate the thermoelectric voltage using our design to be about 100 times larger than what others have achieved in the lab," Stafford added.
Catching the energy lost through waste heat has been on the wish list of engineers for a long time but, so far, a concept for replacing existing devices that is both more efficient and economically competitive has been lacking.
Unlike existing heat-conversion devices such as refrigerators and steam turbines, the devices of Bergfield and Stafford require no mechanics and no ozone-depleting chemicals. Instead, a rubber-like polymer sandwiched between two metals acting as electrodes can do the trick.

Car or factory exhaust pipes could be coated with the material, less than 1 millionth of an inch thick, to harvest energy otherwise lost as heat and generate electricity.

The physicists take advantage of the laws of quantum physics, a realm not typically tapped into when engineering power-generating technology. To the uninitiated, the laws of quantum physics appear to fly in the face of how things are "supposed" to behave.

The key to the technology lies in a quantum law physicists call wave-particle duality: Tiny objects such as electrons can behave either as a wave or as a particle.

"In a sense, an electron is like a red sports car," Bergfield said. "The sports car is both a car and it's red, just as the electron is both a particle and a wave. The two are properties of the same thing. Electrons are just less obvious to us than sports cars."

Bergfield and Stafford discovered the potential for converting heat into electricity when they studied polyphenyl ethers, molecules that spontaneously aggregate into polymers, long chains of repeating units. The backbone of each polyphenyl ether molecule consists of a chain of benzene rings, which in turn are built from carbon atoms. The chain link structure of each molecule acts as a "molecular wire" through which electrons can travel.

"We had both worked with these molecules before and thought about using them for a thermoelectric device," Bergfield said, "but we hadn't really found anything special about them until Michelle Solis, an undergrad who worked on independent study in the lab, discovered that, low and behold, these things had a special feature."

Using computer simulations, Bergfield then "grew" a forest of molecules sandwiched between two electrodes and exposed the array to a simulated heat source.

"As you increase the number of benzene rings in each molecule, you increase the power generated," Bergfield said.

The secret to the molecules' capability to turn heat into power lies in their structure: Like water reaching a fork in a river, the flow of electrons along the molecule is split in two once it encounters a benzene ring, with one flow of electrons following along each arm of the ring.

Bergfield designed the benzene ring circuit in such a way that in one path the electron is forced to travel a longer distance around the ring than the other. This causes the two electron waves to be out of phase once they reunite upon reaching the far side of the benzene ring. When the waves meet, they cancel each other out in a process known as quantum interference. When a temperature difference is placed across the circuit, this interruption in the flow of electric charge leads to the buildup of an electric potential – voltage – between the two electrodes.

Wave interference is a concept exploited by noise-cancelling headphones: Incoming sound waves are met with counter waves generated by the device, wiping out the offending noise.

"We are the first to harness the wave nature of the electron and develop a concept to turn it into usable energy," Stafford said.

Analogous to solid state versus spinning hard drive type computer memory, the UA-designed thermoelectric devices require no moving parts. By design, they are self-contained, easier to manufacture and easier to maintain compared to currently available technology.

"You could just take a pair of metal electrodes and paint them with a single layer of these molecules," Bergfield said. "That would give you a little sandwich that would act as your thermoelectric device. With a solid-state device you don't need cooling agents, you don't need liquid nitrogen shipments, and you don't need to do a lot of maintenance."

"You could say, instead of Freon gas, we use electron gas," Stafford added.

"The effects we see are not unique to the molecules we used in our simulation," Bergfield said. "Any quantum-scale device where you have a cancellation of electric charge will do the trick, as long as there is a temperature difference. The greater the temperature difference, the more power you can generate."

Molecular thermoelectric devices could help solve an issue currently plaguing photovoltaic cells harvesting energy from sunlight
"Solar panels get very hot and their efficiency goes down," Stafford said. "You could harvest some of that heat and use it to generate additional electricity while simultaneously cooling the panel and making its own photovoltaic process more efficient."

"With a very efficient thermoelectric device based on our design, you could power about 200 100-Watt light bulbs using the waste heat of an automobile," he said. "Put another way, one could increase the car's efficiency by well over 25 percent, which would be ideal for a hybrid since it already uses an electrical motor."

So, next time you watch a red sports car zip by, think of the hidden power of the electron and how much more efficient that sports car could be with a thermoelectric device wrapped around its exhaust pipe.


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#2 Luna

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 11:18 AM

I wonder if it can go against entropy?

#3 Marios Kyriazis

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:45 PM

This shows how much there is yet to learn about basic physics. Interesting stuff!

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#4 Luna

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 01:04 PM

I wonder if it can go against entropy?


Still wondering!

#5 Elus

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 03:38 PM

I wonder if it can go against entropy?


Still wondering!



No. While this method may capture some of the waste heat generated by heat source X and thus decrease molecular/atomic disorder partially, it is not perfect. If it can't collect 100% of the waste heat, entropy will increase.

Let's say waste heat is 10 joules from the source. If it captures 90% (9 Joules - a very optimistic estimate), then 10% (1 joule) of the waste heat will go toward increasing entropy.

Perhaps a better question is, "Can this waste heat absorption mechanism slow entropy down?" I would be inclined to say yes, since you have less total waste heat going into the environment which will not be available to increase disorder.

Edited by Elus, 27 September 2010 - 03:39 PM.

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#6 Luna

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 06:51 PM

That doesn't answer the question though.

In chemistry we learn every reaction as some "minimum irreversible tax of energy". My question is if that actually hits that law and even if might not be 100% reverse of the tax might be some reverse or might prove the law wrong and only be a probably in the machinery and efficacy.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 09:25 PM

I wonder if it can go against entropy?

Another way to ask this is: Can it exceed the Carnot efficiency for a heat engine? I don't think it will, but this is a weird device, so there's at least a small element of doubt. Anyone know for sure?

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 09:43 PM

The cynic in me wonders if they will recruit investors, and after a pump and dump leave the company bankrupt. I saw a similar miracle announced by some white lab-coated "scientists" extracting more power from gasoline b injecting water vapor into the combustion chamber. Eighteen months later it was reported in the Times the the gentlemen were under indictment for a scheme to fleece investors. If the physics sounds too good to be true, it probably is
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:18 PM

okay, I've been doing a little research, and this seems legit.


To understand it you have to understand how the wave interference works. This is essentially creating a self created interference wave that is more or less canceling out the ability of electrons to "flow", creating a "potential."


In electronics, a similar technique is used in "coils" in which the resistance to a change in flow in a coil (called hysteresis) can cause a massive jump in Voltage across the coil. It's how a 12 volt power system in a laptop can power a 90 volt florescent tube in the back light.


The greater the heat, the more electrons flow, create interference waves, and increase potential between the cathode and anode, meaning the more postive one side becomes, and the more negative the other side becomes.


This will not enable power draws greater than unity so no, Luna, it still produces entropy. What it will allow is direct conversion of heat to electricity, enabling the creation of power devices that produce FAR LESS entropy than current systems.
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 09:01 PM

This would only power computers, freezers, etc. Yet, my computer is useless, cause I'm watching too much ... (oops, so sorry). My freezer is even more useless and should be replaced by a nitrogen dewar suspending cool brains without any electricity. On the moon it's often steaming hot in the sun and icy cold in the shadow, so even an old mechanical steam machine would power my computer over there. So don't look further at these benzene rings that will never replace my good old radiator heater powered by the Garbage Burning Power Plant in the neighborhood without any electricity too!

Edited by robomoon, 30 October 2010 - 09:09 PM.


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Posted 25 May 2011 - 02:23 PM

Nice.




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