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#1 Guest_spiritofthewhitewolf@myself.com_*

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 12:11 AM


How does on become an immortal? Is there ever going to be a " Immortality Pill " ?
No, probably there will never be such a thing, however, NO ONE will ever need one.
Hi, my name is Jennifer and I am 18 yrs. old. I have been interrested in the aspect of Immortality for many yrs now. What I am about to say here will sound a little
off - the - wall...but is still very true. For a person to achieve Immortality, all they must do is "choose" to do so. No pills, diets, nothing of the sort is needed. I quote: "Immortality Is Achieved...As Simple As A Choice" Just "will" or "choose" to never expierience death. To never expierience physical harm, sickness, or aging agian. Choose to live forever. I know it sounds to easy to be true...but it is as true and easy as making a decision. We make decisions everyday, this one is just a little more complicated. There is no specific way...it is different for everyone. I would be more that happy to have some people E-Mail me on the topic. My E-Mail is : spiritofthewhitewolf@myself.com

I check it daily. If anyone has any questions about this just give me a shout. I can even share some of my strange expieriences sence I chose this way of never ending life. Thanks for any responses...I am out of here... ;)

#2 The White Wolf

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 12:44 AM

Hey, this is spiritofthewhitewolf@myself.com...I started this topic. Now I am a member so you will know me as The White Wolf.
~ Thanks ;)

#3 Bruce Klein

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 01:03 AM

Welcome White Wolf,

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Immortality Is Achieved...As Simple As A Choice" Just "will" or "choose" to never expierience death. To never expierience physical harm, sickness, or aging agian. Choose to live forever. I know it sounds to easy to be true...but it is as true and easy as making a decision.


This is partly true.. however, simply wishing for a new house will not get you a new house. You'll either have to build one or buy one. Thus, Immortalists should be proactive in their pursuit of life extension. Get a cryonics policy, lower caloric intake, invest in biotech research, and look to transhumanism for a new substrate.

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#4 The White Wolf

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 01:08 AM

BJKlein, you are 100% right. When I said the above...I did not mean it in the way you took it. It is partly choice, and the rest is diet, and science. There is a lot to it...but a large part of it is getting in the right frame of mind. At least that is what I think. Of all the members, I will value your openion the highest. I thank you for your reply. ;)

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 02:43 AM

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Of all the members, I will value your openion the highest. I thank you for your reply.


Now, if I could only get my wife to say that! On certain topics, I'd say I have talent, yet there are many members on the forums that have greater insight than I.

#6 The White Wolf

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 04:52 PM

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Now, if I could only get my wife to say that.


Well, she should be saying that to you. ;) And I do value your openion. I am hoping that some other members will make some somments though... [?]

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 03:36 PM

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"For a person to achieve Immortality, all they must do is "choose" to do so. No pills, diets, nothing of the sort is needed. I quote: "Immortality Is Achieved...As Simple As A Choice"

No offense, white wolf, but I actually think that such thinking is incredibly dangerous., as it encourages passivity, and flight into wishful delusion rather than concerted effort to develop the technology that will be needed in order to save us. People have been trying to choose immortality for centuries. They have all died. There is no one on the planet who was here 200 years ago. We all suffer from a incurable condition that no amount of positive thinking will eliminate. What is needed are large resources poured into anti aging research. There are still very central disagreements about the very nature of aging. We urgently need to increase our understanding of this process. The elimination of aging, when it comes will be the greatest achievement in the history of science.

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 06:16 PM

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Hi, my name is Jennifer and I am 18 yrs. old.

Hmm. Sure.

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I have been interested in the aspect of Immortality for many yrs now.

What aspect?

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What I am about to say here will sound a little off - the -  wall...but is still very true.

Since you do not say anything, we can leave it at that.

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all they must do is "choose" to do so.

Read a bit of "Sandman" by Neil Gaiman, have we?

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I quote:

Who do you quote?

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Thanks for any responses...I am out of here... ;)

Presumably. Gives me the creeps to.


Seriously Bruce and Untnapishtim you are just too nice. The topic "Immortality" lends itself to be of interest to all kinds of "visions" - do we really have to comment on every attention seeking loon who comes this way?

regards
as-usual-bad-cop-playing caliban

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Posted 08 December 2002 - 05:44 AM

Yes, welcome White Wolf,

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#10 bobdrake12

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Posted 08 December 2002 - 05:53 AM

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Choose to live forever. I know it sounds to easy to be true...but it is as true and easy as making a decision. We make decisions everyday, this one is just a little more complicated. There is no specific way...it is different for everyone.


The White Wolf,

A decision is a commitment.

To understand the wolf, the eagle and the cat; is a beginning.

bob




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#11 thefirstimmortal

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Posted 26 December 2002 - 11:17 PM

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How does on become an immortal? Is there ever going to be a " Immortality Pill " ?
No, probably there will never be such a thing, however, NO ONE will ever need one.
Hi, my name is Jennifer and I am 18 yrs. old. I have been interrested in the aspect of Immortality for many yrs now. What I am about to say here will sound a little
off - the -  wall...but is still very true. For a person to achieve Immortality, all they must do is "choose" to do so. No pills, diets, nothing of the sort is needed. I quote: "Immortality Is Achieved...As Simple As A Choice" Just "will" or "choose" to never expierience death. To never expierience physical harm, sickness, or aging agian. Choose to live forever.



One of the most glaring ironies of the long history of the pro-longevity movement is the observation that despite their claims, advocates of prolongevity have themselves died. If a genuine Fountain of Youth had actually been discovered, the first ones to benefit should have been the discoverers.

Some of you may remember Jim Fixx from the 1988, the long-distance runner who advocated the health benefits of running. He died of a massive heart attack at age fifty-two near the end of a routine run. My friend Linus Pauling, who ardently promoted the idea that massive doses of vitamin C would “prevent” both colds and cancer? He succumbed to cancer at age ninety-three. Jerome Rodale was the founder of Rodale Press and Prevention magazine. He worked tirelessly to promote the health benefits of organic farming and declared confidently that he would live to a hundred unless killed by accident. During an interview with Dick Cavett in 1971 on the health and longevity benefits of organic foods, the seventy-two-year-old Rodale dropped dead of a heart attack. Dr. Daniel Rudman, the first scientist to test the antiaging properties of growth hormone, died at age sixty-seven from a pulmonary embolism. Of course it is not possible to know with certainty what the early prolongevity figures died from, but it is safe to say that most probably died from one of the four top killers that prevail today: heart disease, cancer, stroke, or an infectious disease.

Several years ago, an antiaging organization sent me a letter claiming that aging and death could be overcome and immortality achieved simply by abandoning the belief that they were inevitable. Sometime later, when the founder of this organization died, his followers claimed that he had lost his faith.

#12 Bruce Klein

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Posted 28 December 2002 - 12:57 AM

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My friend Linus Pauling, who ardently promoted the idea that massive doses of vitamin C would “prevent” both colds and cancer?


William,

Would you mind telling me a little more about your relationship with Linus? He's an inspiration and it's sad he didn't take the next logical step to procure a cryonics policy. It's noteworthy that he did live to 93, much longer that the average lifespan of around 45 for his generation.

I also see the extreme irony in health and longevity promoters who eventually give in to the steely fingers of death without taking action.

Timothy Leary is a good example here also.

Cryonics member George Smith explains the lack of interest by pointing out 4 distinct reasons why peolpe do not sign up for cryonics, "(1) Unhappiness. (2) Guilt. (3) Pain. (4) Peer Pressure."

You may be interested in reading the complete article here.. but basically Smith pretends that humans forego the logic of cryonics because of social influences that overwhelming influence decisions about life and death.


Plus Smith points out that, "what is not "natural" is easily seen as "unnatural". This quickly causes many minds to equate cryonics with defiance of God."

Incidentally, Simon Smith, a writer at Betterhumans.com, has answered the natural question by arguing that there is no such thing. Simon Smith says, "But the truth is, what's "natural" is often difficult to define. Without humans there are no clear answers, and when you add them in things get even murkier."

Furthermore, Simon Smith describes the problem as the ignorance of repugnance, and says, "with no basis in biology, theology or secular philosophy, arguments from nature ultimately come down to emotions: It feels wrong or unnatural, so it must be bad." Complete Simon Smith Article

To sum up, the root cause of the problem is a perceptual or image problem. We as immortalists need to find better more creative ways of presenting the idea of immortality/transhumanism/cryonics/etc as attractive and fun.

I believe we have a huge advantage to work with because death is universally seen as bad thing and in most cases people do not inherently want to die. We need to show more people that death is not inevitable and that living forever would be wonderful.

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Posted 28 December 2002 - 05:38 PM

The immortality by telomerase is my life purpose and sense. Anybody agree? Contact me. (Paulius J./16/Vilnius in Lithuania) e-mail

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Posted 16 January 2003 - 01:11 AM

i agree with you it can be the begin of immortality.
do you have apratical way to do it.
how to prevent cancer using telomerase?

#15 The White Wolf

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Posted 20 January 2003 - 02:49 AM

I am glad to see people sharing their views.
I hope people will continue to post in here...I don't say much even though I created this topic...I am more of a listener. So please keep on posting your openions and views.

thanks,
The White Wolf lol

Edited by The White Wolf, 20 January 2003 - 02:50 AM.


#16 fueki

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Posted 20 January 2003 - 04:22 PM

to Cessam>
Cancer is cured by gene therapy.

#17 Gediminas Jesinas

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:46 AM

All matter decays eventually only possible way is to conserve body to slow down these processes or regenerate always. You want to live healthy and functioning body as otherwise life has less meaning. Immortality is theoretically possible by downloading consciousness into computer as Terence Mckenna suggested. But all that is just Scifi. Although what interesting fact is that consciousness does survive after brain stops functioning. So mind does exist in somekind other state than chemical reactions, morphic field?



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Posted 13 December 2014 - 08:44 PM

Welcome White Wolf,

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Immortality Is Achieved...As Simple As A Choice" Just "will" or "choose" to never expierience death. To never expierience physical harm, sickness, or aging agian. Choose to live forever. I know it sounds to easy to be true...but it is as true and easy as making a decision.


This is partly true.. however, simply wishing for a new house will not get you a new house. You'll either have to build one or buy one. Thus, Immortalists should be proactive in their pursuit of life extension. Get a cryonics policy, lower caloric intake, invest in biotech research, and look to transhumanism for a new substrate.

 

Immortality can not be achieved without the mindset and an extreme variant of willpower, even to what some would call, an inhuman willpower......the true immortals may indeed, not even be human at all!

I believe in the existence of cross species / hybrid human-alien-angel types...

Can a regular mortal or human become immortal?

..........Only with the existence and direct support from an external kinetic source of willpower...

For some this is technology, but in affect it is the electro-resonating energy of a demonic or angelic power..

The secret of man's intentions comes back to these species who inherit our Earth, our interactions up until recently have largely been indirect, except for that in Area-51,IX7 and similar agencies.

 

To achieve immortality you must not only hold a view that sticks, but a willpower to outdo , and a resonating aura to go with it, you have to understand and master the secrets of both worlds, and not just one narrow little viewpoint - and you must understand that science will have it's grasp around YOU, if you don't have a grasp around IT.

 

You must avert the biochemical warfare you are facing, and in turn, amplify your own biochemical ratios - and hold a truly inhuman, spiritual substance, internalized, and made tangible by your decisions to keep, and to keep forward!

 

Thus, personality is key in achieving immortality., and it comes from your will to do so just as much as it does your active participation in all things necessary, both chemical, spiritual, and psychological.

 

There is no simple answer to any question, but being aware, vigilant and open-minded is key to finding what works for YOU, the best I can suggest , is relentlessly pursue all of your goals, and let obstructions, diversions, and all enemies fuel your desire to keep moving, if you see things like Einstein did, you will understand the world in a clearer view.

 

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 07:01 AM

Regenerate always is the better way, according to me.


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 06:40 PM

Regenerate always is the better way, according to me.

Gain knowledge of the secrets of old, and the teachings of modern wisdom and technology, combine with lies similar, let these teachings form a new bout of wisdom within yourself, and then...you will understand the secrets to immortality.






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