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#1 Destiny's Equation

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 05:39 PM


I’ve discovered the best thing since sliced bread :-D

Recently I was in a hellish state. When I tried to form thoughts it felt like I was pushing against concrete. (It was tempting to stop thinking entirely and become a vegetable, but I refused, knowing that if I did that, bad things would happen…) I looked lifeless: slack-jawed, head cocked to one side, fingers resting in a pill-rolling position. Breathing was shallow because I lacked the motor coordination necessary to take deep breaths.

Then yesterday I decided to up my ginger root consumption. At breakfast I ate a chunk the size of a burger.

Within an hour I perked up. With the “brain fog” under control not only could I form thoughts, but they even began to form spontaneously. My outward appearance changed as well: expressive, head upright, the fire in my eyes began to return.

Over the course of the day the improvements became less dramatic as the stuff wore off. But I was still in MUCH better shape than I was before eating it!

This morning I found myself taking deep breaths. No more weird respiratory depression.

I am excited that I found this! Perhaps it is time to custom order capsules of 50X ginger extract, time released…hmm…

The only bad thing is, I am seeing the neurologist about my condition for the first time on Thursday…if he sees me in remission he might blow off my illness as hypochondria!

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 05:41 PM

Then you should hold off on it until the appointment.

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 06:49 PM

Then you should hold off on it until the appointment.


While we're on the subject of horrific self-neglect, laying off the supplements would turn me into an unresponsive drooling vegetable pretty quickly...

Risk-to-benefits??? :sad:

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 07:29 PM

The size of a burger? Fuck me
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#5 nameless

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 07:40 PM

I agree with Rwac. Best to hold off until you get a diagnosis.

You don't want supplements masking the symptoms or alter bloodwork, before you even find out what you may have.

If I remember right, ginger may also increase testosterone (in theory). So best to wait until the neuro does full tests. If he's anything like a neuro I've seen, they'll take a bucket of blood (or at least it feels like it) and run tons of tests.

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:09 PM

Ok...coming off of my entire supplement arsenal...

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I will take green tea capsules if I get a migrane, but that's it.

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 10:25 PM

I’ve discovered the best thing since sliced bread :-D

Recently I was in a hellish state. When I tried to form thoughts it felt like I was pushing against concrete. (It was tempting to stop thinking entirely and become a vegetable, but I refused, knowing that if I did that, bad things would happen…) I looked lifeless: slack-jawed, head cocked to one side, fingers resting in a pill-rolling position. Breathing was shallow because I lacked the motor coordination necessary to take deep breaths.

Then yesterday I decided to up my ginger root consumption. At breakfast I ate a chunk the size of a burger.

Within an hour I perked up. With the “brain fog” under control not only could I form thoughts, but they even began to form spontaneously. My outward appearance changed as well: expressive, head upright, the fire in my eyes began to return.

Over the course of the day the improvements became less dramatic as the stuff wore off. But I was still in MUCH better shape than I was before eating it!

This morning I found myself taking deep breaths. No more weird respiratory depression.

I am excited that I found this! Perhaps it is time to custom order capsules of 50X ginger extract, time released…hmm…

The only bad thing is, I am seeing the neurologist about my condition for the first time on Thursday…if he sees me in remission he might blow off my illness as hypochondria!

What is the advantage of Ginger extract over a natural form or better, crystalised ginger or ginger balls in syrup? I know some people would scream with horror at the sugar content but the pleasure is almost orgasmic if you're a real ginger lover.

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 11:01 PM

I’ve discovered the best thing since sliced bread :-D

Recently I was in a hellish state. When I tried to form thoughts it felt like I was pushing against concrete. (It was tempting to stop thinking entirely and become a vegetable, but I refused, knowing that if I did that, bad things would happen…) I looked lifeless: slack-jawed, head cocked to one side, fingers resting in a pill-rolling position. Breathing was shallow because I lacked the motor coordination necessary to take deep breaths.

Then yesterday I decided to up my ginger root consumption. At breakfast I ate a chunk the size of a burger.

Within an hour I perked up. With the “brain fog” under control not only could I form thoughts, but they even began to form spontaneously. My outward appearance changed as well: expressive, head upright, the fire in my eyes began to return.

Over the course of the day the improvements became less dramatic as the stuff wore off. But I was still in MUCH better shape than I was before eating it!

This morning I found myself taking deep breaths. No more weird respiratory depression.

I am excited that I found this! Perhaps it is time to custom order capsules of 50X ginger extract, time released…hmm…

The only bad thing is, I am seeing the neurologist about my condition for the first time on Thursday…if he sees me in remission he might blow off my illness as hypochondria!

What is the advantage of Ginger extract over a natural form or better, crystalised ginger or ginger balls in syrup? I know some people would scream with horror at the sugar content but the pleasure is almost orgasmic if you're a real ginger lover.



Well.. I think you answered your own question on the sugar part. As to the natural form vs extract... Really it would depend how it is extracted and which chemicals are soluble in what...Biggest + for extract would be a lower dosage.. Eating a burger size piece of that shit raw, in the OP's case, would be hard.... as hell.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 02:49 AM

I spoke too soon.

I ate another large chunk today (before reading rwac's reply). Now I look, sound, smell, and have thoughts that are very man-ly. I feel like I'm turning into a dude!

Nameless was right about the testosterone it seems.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 05:31 AM

I spoke too soon.

I ate another large chunk today (before reading rwac's reply). Now I look, sound, smell, and have thoughts that are very man-ly. I feel like I'm turning into a dude!

Nameless was right about the testosterone it seems.


I highly doubt it would have that much of a profound/immediate effect.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 05:48 AM

I spoke too soon.

I ate another large chunk today (before reading rwac's reply). Now I look, sound, smell, and have thoughts that are very man-ly. I feel like I'm turning into a dude!

Nameless was right about the testosterone it seems.

I highly doubt it would have that much of a profound/immediate effect.

Maybe it's not testosterone; maybe it's ginger's dopamine-increasing effect. Destiny's symptoms sound like they're dopamine-related, so that would make more sense.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:49 AM

I feel like I'm turning into a dude!



phew that's a relief :laugh:

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:50 AM

Where do you buy this ginger that is sized like a house? How do you eat it? Is it not hard to eat?

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:51 AM

Thank you to everyone for the replies, much appreciated!

Speaking of the big trip to the neurologist:

Here is the page I will be showing him. Is this good, or is there anything else I need to add?

(I'm thinking I shouldn't even bother telling him my exact supplement regimen, that changes just about every week. I stop taking stuff because I run out of it, plus I experiment with new things.)

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symptoms
"brain fog" that makes forming thoughts an uphill battle
decreased awareness of surroundings
shocking cognitive decline
memory loss
muscle rigidity
drooling
dizziness
"heavy" feeling
loss of balance
ringing in ears
blurry/distorted vision
pain in hands and feet
nasal voice
quiet voice
nausea
respiratory depression
(symptoms flare up periodically, and are exascerbated by exercise or hot showers)

bloodwork requests
beriberi?
liver pathways? (2 doctors I spoke to suspect this mess is MCS-related)
alpha 1 antitrypsin?

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:56 AM

Where do you buy this ginger that is sized like a house? How do you eat it? Is it not hard to eat?


I bought it in the grocery store.

To mask the flavor I either put it on top of veggie burgers or took sips of grape juice between bites.

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 11:21 AM

I spoke too soon.

I ate another large chunk today (before reading rwac's reply). Now I look, sound, smell, and have thoughts that are very man-ly. I feel like I'm turning into a dude!

Nameless was right about the testosterone it seems.


You're already pretty manly if you eat burger-sized heaps of ginger. How do you actually get it down? A tablespoonful in a pint of water makes my mouth burn.

EDIT: Never mind, you answered.

EDIT: But when you say burger-sized are you being literal, like the volume of a burger, like half a cup full? I wouldn't be surprised if that gave me the shits if I even manage to gag it all down

Edited by caruga, 10 April 2011 - 11:24 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2011 - 01:06 PM

The only bad thing is, I am seeing the neurologist about my condition for the first time on Thursday…if he sees me in remission he might blow off my illness as hypochondria!


Hey Destiny's Equation,
I am very interested in your appointment with the neurologist. What did he say? Was he already able to diagnose you? Do you have to come back for follow-ups? Please, keep us updated (perhaps in another topic).

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 04:10 PM

Just had to check this thread again to make sure the OP wasn't on April 1.

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 04:11 PM

Ah, I get it now, the root is a lot less concentrated than ground ginger...

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 12:45 AM

EDIT: But when you say burger-sized are you being literal, like the volume of a burger, like half a cup full? I wouldn't be surprised if that gave me the shits if I even manage to gag it all down


Literal, yes.

I put the chunk on top of a veggie burger, it was the same size.

Hey Destiny's Equation,
I am very interested in your appointment with the neurologist. What did he say? Was he already able to diagnose you? Do you have to come back for follow-ups? Please, keep us updated (perhaps in another topic).


He was quite baffled. Follow-up is in 10 days.

Thank you for the support Spider :)

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 01:07 AM

A loved one, disturbed by the changes in me, wants me back on the supps ASAP. I think he is frightened that by the time my idiot doctors make a diagnosis there won't be anything left of me to save.

(The neuromuscular symptoms never returned, looks like the ginger fixed that. But the cognitive dysfunction is terrible...I feel like I'm turning into Dory from Finding Nemo.)
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 02:44 AM

A loved one, disturbed by the changes in me, wants me back on the supps ASAP. I think he is frightened that by the time my idiot doctors make a diagnosis there won't be anything left of me to save.

(The neuromuscular symptoms never returned, looks like the ginger fixed that. But the cognitive dysfunction is terrible...I feel like I'm turning into Dory from Finding Nemo.)


He is right. Your doctor may never figure things out. Don't stay off them in the hopes of a test working. One time should be sufficient.

I suggest Methylene blue for cognitive dysfunction.
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:13 AM

A loved one, disturbed by the changes in me, wants me back on the supps ASAP. I think he is frightened that by the time my idiot doctors make a diagnosis there won't be anything left of me to save.

(The neuromuscular symptoms never returned, looks like the ginger fixed that. But the cognitive dysfunction is terrible...I feel like I'm turning into Dory from Finding Nemo.)


He is right. Your doctor may never figure things out. Don't stay off them in the hopes of a test working. One time should be sufficient.

I suggest Methylene blue for cognitive dysfunction.

MB + Cq10

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:35 AM

MB + Cq10


Those two don't play well together.
Plus CoQ10 only gave me brain fog, so YMMV.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:51 AM

MB + Cq10


Those two don't play well together.
Plus CoQ10 only gave me brain fog, so YMMV.



I had good results stacking M-B Cq10 and Ginko*(extracted whole plant)

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:58 AM

I had good results stacking M-B Cq10 and Ginko*(extracted whole plant)


What doses did you use ?

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 06:06 AM

I had good results stacking M-B Cq10 and Ginko*(extracted whole plant)


What doses did you use ?

While I don't feel at liberty to hand out my dosage info, I will share brands.
http://www.amazon.co...03106598&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.co...03106665&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co...03106714&sr=1-1

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:20 PM

I read about ginger tea helping with leaky gut and since I suspect I may have this condition, I decided to make myself some ginger tea. And, was I surprised how fast that tea was clearing my really thick brain fog. Not completely but the relief was quite significant. So I googled ginger+brain fog to find any more info and I stumbled across this thread.

So I was wondering - did you find a solution to your problems? (it was something up with the liver, too, wasn't it?)

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

A loved one, disturbed by the changes in me, wants me back on the supps ASAP. I think he is frightened that by the time my idiot doctors make a diagnosis there won't be anything left of me to save.

(The neuromuscular symptoms never returned, looks like the ginger fixed that. But the cognitive dysfunction is terrible...I feel like I'm turning into Dory from Finding Nemo.)


He is right. Your doctor may never figure things out. Don't stay off them in the hopes of a test working. One time should be sufficient.

I suggest Methylene blue for cognitive dysfunction.


rwac, what would you suggest as an adequate does for cognitive dysfunction? are there any differences with absorption between Methylene blue from current sources and rember ?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:45 AM

The size of a burger? Fuck me


That much would certainly burn me a new one...and I love ginger!




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