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#1 Ark

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:55 AM


Hi I'm not sure where to start but about 5 years ago I picked up some sort of lung problem at the time I was traveling overseas in tropical locations and smoked cigs(occasionallY). I also was doing high dosages of liquid hydergine unaware of the dangers of Perual Diffusion. I traveled in areas where flukes are common , also certian rare fungal infections are commmon. I was around my sick uncle at the time which died from a unknown lung infection.

I have been tested for
TB
lung function test were above normal
they did a MRI of my nasal passage way and said was covered in gunk and debree?
x rays showed lines running around top nodul of my lung during winter, when i was coughing up the most stuff.
x rays now show nothing conclusive, but it still feels like something is wrong, during intense workouts i feel like my right lung seizes up.
Doctors said I had bad Post Nasal Drip, but they weren't sure what was causing it.
I did test positive for lyme and was treated w/doxycline
The problem comes and goes, getting much worse and symptoms of wet cough/deep cough during wet/cold winter and during summer almost clears up?
I'm going to see a doctor this week who my friend reffered me too, I need to know what could be wrong with me? Anyone have any suggestions?!

A while back there was a thread with a guy who had similar problems, but all my forum searchs turned up nothing, can anyone link?>

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:16 PM

I practice Judo in college. Got my ass kicked enough times to never try it again :laugh:. You can try using Mullein to clear up your lungs. It works incredible well. It's also said to work well on mycobacterium like TB. Other than that, you are taking a stab in the dark in treating this. Maybe some compounds with antibiotic properties like berberine sulfate, oregano and allicin might be work a look.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 03:06 AM

Did You have a consultation with a pulmonologist?
If You did, and You are not satisfied, You may go to the Faculty of Pulmonology at the nearest medical university. There You should receive much more competent consultation.
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Posted 13 September 2011 - 03:18 AM

I don't know what the problem is but I know it is important that you refrain from smoking anything, breathing incense, scented candles, cologne, air fresheners, chemical cleaners and anything that isn't air. Look into getting unscented, less toxic cleaners and personal care products. They won't cure you, but they will keep your body from getting further stressed. Don't drink alcohol or take recreational drugs. Don't abuse prescription drugs. Eat well. Eat a steamed green vegetable everyday. Foods high in vitamin C would probably help. If the doctor can't help you, consider going to an acupuncturist/chinese herbalist. Getting as much fresh air as possible would be a good idea without getting chilled.

A specialist in Chinese Medicine would likely focus on the excess mucous in your system and do things to clear it. Don't eat a lot of fried food, sugar, dairy or cold food. Try to drink plain hot tea everyday, green or black. The best one would be Pu-erh tea. You can add green tea to it for extra help. This might not cure you but it will help your body break up the mucous. You can find Pu-erh tea online. If you go to an acupuncturist, they will give you herbs and acupuncture to clear up the problem.

Maybe you will have something a regular M.D. can help with. There are clues that you might. Whoever has helped you so far has done a lot of tests which is good, but unfortunately, not found the cause as yet. A Pulmonologist or specialist in Tropical Medicine or Contagious Diseases might help. Beyond that, I really believe in Chinese Medicine. Beyond that, it was Louis Pasteur who said, "The microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything." The more you take care of yourself and avoid things that abuse your lungs, the quicker you will recover.

Good luck.

Edited by Luminosity, 13 September 2011 - 03:29 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 01:18 AM

I don't know what the problem is but I know it is important that you refrain from smoking anything, breathing incense, scented candles, cologne, air fresheners, chemical cleaners and anything that isn't air. Look into getting unscented, less toxic cleaners and personal care products. They won't cure you, but they will keep your body from getting further stressed. Don't drink alcohol or take recreational drugs. Don't abuse prescription drugs. Eat well. Eat a steamed green vegetable everyday. Foods high in vitamin C would probably help. If the doctor can't help you, consider going to an acupuncturist/chinese herbalist. Getting as much fresh air as possible would be a good idea without getting chilled.

A specialist in Chinese Medicine would likely focus on the excess mucous in your system and do things to clear it. Don't eat a lot of fried food, sugar, dairy or cold food. Try to drink plain hot tea everyday, green or black. The best one would be Pu-erh tea. You can add green tea to it for extra help. This might not cure you but it will help your body break up the mucous. You can find Pu-erh tea online. If you go to an acupuncturist, they will give you herbs and acupuncture to clear up the problem.

Maybe you will have something a regular M.D. can help with. There are clues that you might. Whoever has helped you so far has done a lot of tests which is good, but unfortunately, not found the cause as yet. A Pulmonologist or specialist in Tropical Medicine or Contagious Diseases might help. Beyond that, I really believe in Chinese Medicine. Beyond that, it was Louis Pasteur who said, "The microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything." The more you take care of yourself and avoid things that abuse your lungs, the quicker you will recover.

Good luck.



Thanks for your words, i did see a lung specialist, i used MB for last month, and my lung health has improved "thoughts"?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 02:13 AM

i did see a lung specialist, i used MB for last month, and my lung health has improved "thoughts"?

I'm glad to hear that. What was the diagnosis? Was there any therapy involved, or did it just clear up on its own?

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 02:20 AM

Glad you went to a lung specialist and were thoroughly tested. Sorry it didn't work out. Not sure what MB is.

A Chinese remedy for excess mucous especially in the lungs is to eat steamed barley. Get some uncooked, hulled or pearled barley. At the health food store it would likely be in the bulk bins. At the supermarket, it would likely be with the uncooked beans, split peas and stuff people use to make homemade soup. You cook it like rice with salt and water BUT you have to use a lot more water and cooking time than the package will say. Just double or triple it. Sorry, I can't find my recipe. Make a lot of it. It tends to taste like cardboard. To improve the taste you could add orange or tangerine peels, vanilla, cinnamin, ginger, anise, etc. Then you eat it warm, possibly for breakfast. You can add warm, unsweetened almond milk. Eat it every day or every other day as much as you can take. It will help remove the excess mucous from your lungs. It can be powerful.

Another thing that might help is to take a capsule of curry powder once a day. I would get a few ounces of curry powder from the bulk spice section at the health food store, so it won't have MSG in it. Then you have to get some empty gel caps, the smaller the better. If you can obtain the baby ones online those are good, or just get whatever you can, O or OO. If you get the baby caps, fill them up. If you get O or OO, just put a pinch or two of curry powder in them. The powder will stain, so watch out. Take ONE capsule a day, after a meal, preferably a meal with fat or oil in it. Don't take it after 6:00 p.m. because you will get weird dreams. If this agrees with you, it can help to break up the mucous. Oddly enough, it also helped my friend with his martial arts performance. But do not take more than one a day. It it doesn't agree with you, stop.

I wrote a thread in the nutrition section called Resources for Chinese Medicine or something like that. It will tell you how to find a good acupuncturist and how destructive drinking cold water is, ESPECIALLY for excess mucous. It sounds crazy but it's true.

Make sure not to consume sodas, cold drinks, cold water, energy drinks, sugar or to take steriods. Don't do anything to stress your health or your lungs. If I were you I'd get a glass-lined thermos or thermos carafe and plan to drink a lot of plain hot tea all day long. (You can decaffinate any tea by steeping it it a little hot water for one minute and then throwing that liquid out. The caffiene will be leached out and then you can make decaffinated tea from that teabag) Pu-erh will be best, but green or black tea will help. A good brand of thermos carafe is something like Zoriuchi(?) brand from Japan. It may be available in gourmet cooking stores. Tempo makes glass-lined thermoses, but they may leak, so watch out. I got one of those in a drugstore. Eat a hot breakfast everyday.

Limit any toxic exposures. Do not use pesticides. Do not use lysol or room spray. Do not use incense. Don't get a lot of dust or foreign materials in to your lungs. If you have to, you can clean your house with baking soda.

If you don't have health insurance, I would find a good acupuncurist and do that. If you have health insurance, you can investigate the possiblity that there is an infection or parasite with a specialist in infectious diseases or tropical medicine, or even another pulmonogist. Or you can go the natural route and get rid of the mucous that the critters may be living on and try to get rid of them that way.

You might want to take off the gray lizard mask. That might help. ;-)

I hope you can find my thread about Chinese Medicine. I was thinking about you and I will continue to send you my best wishes for a complete recovery.

Edited by Luminosity, 17 September 2011 - 02:45 AM.


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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:49 AM

Thanks Luminosity , what type of herbs have you heard of that might help from Chinese medication for fungal infection of the right lung?

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:47 AM

I was wondering about you.

I don't know. I would consult an acupuncturist/doctor of oriental medicine. Some are better than others. I hope you can find my thread about Chinese Medicine because it tells you how to find a good acupuncturist. Or, if that's too complicated, just go and find out. I know they will have a medicine for you.

Edited by Luminosity, 27 October 2011 - 04:50 AM.


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:13 AM

Ark, you mentioned that you saw a pulmonologist. What did they have to say about it?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:19 PM

Cordyceps, garlic.


http://www.ncbi.nlm....cles/PMC3188885

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=16178516

http://www.quantumev...u/cordyceps.htm

http://pharmaceutica...eps/indepth.htm



http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=18780948

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=17370439

Edited by tham, 17 December 2011 - 12:20 PM.

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#12 Ark

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:11 PM

I'm waiting on Norwegien Shark Liver Oil, suppost to be great for this type of thing?

Thoughts?

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 04:21 AM

It seems unlikely to help. If you smoke pot, cigarettes, or anything else, if you take recreational drugs or drink too much, that has to stop before this will clear up. There's no safe amount of anything that someone with a lung infection can smoke.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 04:46 AM

Ediable as far as cannabis goes my friend, and the rest doesn't apply to me I live a really healthy life style by anyones messure.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 04:51 AM

Ark, you mentioned that you saw a pulmonologist. What did they have to say about it?



He said, all the test (*wrong tests) came back negitive for asma and could'nt see anything on the Xray even though I had previous X rays showing infection. (this was during the summer that I saw him and my symtoms where almost all but gone) Now it's dead of winter here and I can notice it again, my regular doctor said I had Post Nasal Drip and did a cat scan on my sinuses and found there to be some sort of debree and thought it looked like i had lyme or TB.

I travel allot and believe i caught something odd and rare from fiji area.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 06:02 PM

Ark, you mentioned that you saw a pulmonologist. What did they have to say about it?


He said, all the test (*wrong tests) came back negitive for asma and could'nt see anything on the Xray even though I had previous X rays showing infection. (this was during the summer that I saw him and my symtoms where almost all but gone) Now it's dead of winter here and I can notice it again, my regular doctor said I had Post Nasal Drip and did a cat scan on my sinuses and found there to be some sort of debree and thought it looked like i had lyme or TB.

I travel allot and believe i caught something odd and rare from fiji area.


That's the second time that radiology has indicated some sort of debris (scar tissue?) in your sinuses. That might be at the root of the problem. You'd probably want to talk to an ENT (ear/nose/throat) doc about that. It's kind of worrisome that a pulmonologist said it looked like you had 'lyme or TB'! Did he mean "had", as in "had in the past", or "have" as in an active infection? Obviously both of those are serious and this needs to be sorted out. My guess is that you don't have an active infection, or they would have treated it. Did you ever get a diagnosis on the Fiji infection? Was that separate from the Lyme, which you were treated for a while back? Did all of the problems start after the Fiji infection?

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:29 PM

Yes all my problems came after I visited my Uncle who was sick and died from a lung infection, there is a rare lung bacteria that you can get in the Fijian Islands, let me try look for the name for its name. It's allot like lyme I remember reading. I will get back to you Niner , I thank you for looking into my case and too everyone else that have offered me words of encouragement.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:38 PM

If there is something in your sinuses and/or lung that keeps giving you problems, how about looking into some type of nasal sprays that have antibacteria/antifungal properties. I've seen olive leaf and oregano oil nasal sprays that are readily available. You can find both on Iherb. Mullein works on the airways to clear mucus and it's also said to be effective against TB. I posted a study earlier. I'm currently using a curcumin nasal spray for this lingering cough I had and it made a difference.

Thyme is also kills just about everything. While I was researching it I read that after ingestion, you expel some of the volatile oils through your lungs and in the process, it helps clear mucus and infections. I found that interesting because very few medications and supplements work at the level of the lung after oral doses. One example is antioxidants. They work great in the body, but can't reach the area of the lung where most of the pro-oxidant activity is happening.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 03:11 AM

I conclude it maybe one of these three;


http://en.wikipedia....iki/Melioidosis
http://en.wikipedia....Fluke_(parasite)
http://emedicine.med...300341-overview



treatments i've tried
doxycycline
sulfasalazine - which helped the most of the two treatments i tried

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:05 AM

Cordyceps, garlic.


http://www.ncbi.nlm....cles/PMC3188885

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=16178516

http://www.quantumev...u/cordyceps.htm

http://pharmaceutica...eps/indepth.htm



http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=18780948

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=17370439



I've tried high dosage Garlic and Cordyceps it seems to help , but problem remains.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:13 AM

My other concern is during the time I got sick, just before then I had been using Hydergine (liquid big dosages for a extended period of time) and there is a little known side effect of fibrosis of the lung.






http://www.ehealthme...monary fibrosis

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:01 AM

Is it possible you could scan your chest xray ? I'd be curious to see it.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:00 PM

Did your chest physician perform a pleural biopsy ?

If not, get it done.

The hallmark in TB is a granuloma with a central caseous necrosis.

http://img2.tfd.com/.../X2604-T-50.png


While other infections, such as histoplasmosis, may also present
with such caseating necrotic granulomas, a chest physician told
me recently that the only disease which has BOTH a caseating
necrotic granuloma AND a pleural effusion
is TB.

The pathologist will also do a Ziehl-Neelsen stain for the bacteria,
which may or may not turn up. If they do, they will stain red.
If no bacteria are seen, but you have the above two hallmarks,
you are still certain to have pleural TB.

The other classical hallmarks of TB are night sweats and weight loss.


Cheak with your chest physician again, or see another one.


TB is not the easiest disease to diagnose, and takes an
experienced chest physician.

http://www.archbronc...090862tab11.gif

http://www.archbronc...&ident=13090862


http://en.wikipedia....aseous_necrosis

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Granuloma

http://medical-dicti...om/tuberculosis

http://pleiad.umdnj....cobact_img.html

http://pleiad.umdnj....ecif_react.html

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 11:39 PM

Is it possible you could scan your chest xray ? I'd be curious to see it.


I will contact my doctors office and try and get the right one, thanks for looking into my problem this is the single bane in my life that I could do without.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:19 PM

I practice Judo in college. Got my ass kicked enough times to never try it again Posted Image. You can try using Mullein to clear up your lungs. It works incredible well. It's also said to work well on mycobacterium like TB. .


Wow, you are right. I never knew mullein was that mullein was that powerful.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....cles/PMC2952292

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21807390

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:52 AM

I practice Judo in college. Got my ass kicked enough times to never try it again Posted Image. You can try using Mullein to clear up your lungs. It works incredible well. It's also said to work well on mycobacterium like TB. .


Wow, you are right. I never knew mullein was that mullein was that powerful.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....cles/PMC2952292

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21807390




I'm Interested online source please?

Edited by Ark, 21 December 2011 - 12:59 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:59 AM

I just wish there was more research on it..
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:59 AM

I'm Interested online source please?


Do those two links not work for you?

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:05 AM

Would a ,high prolonged cycle of dosages of http://www.iherb.com...30-ml/8425?at=0 be useful?

Edited by Ark, 21 December 2011 - 01:19 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:39 AM

Would a ,high prolonged cycle of dosages of http://www.iherb.com...30-ml/8425?at=0 be useful?


Wont know until you try. Better to find that something doesn't work than try nothing at all. 5 years is a long time..




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