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[tham]

Mullein is also a cancer fighter.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21656353


This might be better, since it includes elecampane and platycodon .

http://www.iherb.com...blets/1577?at=0


" Elecampane is employed chiefly in the treatment of respiratory
disorders, especially bronchitis, coughs, and catarrh. "

Respiratory Tract :

* bronchitis,
* inflammation of the respiratory tract
* respiratory catarrh,
* tuberculosis of the lungs and
* whooping cough.

http://www.wildcraft...Elecampane.html


Antimycobacterial eudesmanolides from Inula helenium
(elecampane) and Rudbeckia subtomentosa (Sweet coneflower).


http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=10364842


Platycodon (balloon flower) has also been used to treat TB,
and has anticancer effects as well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21052843

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=15749458

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=16890340



" Platycodon grandiflorum, as the traditional Chinese medicine,
has been employed for dispersing the lung and resolving
phlegm soothing the throat, and promoting pus discharge
in ancient days. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=17432133

Edited by tham, 21 December 2011 - 12:16 PM.

[Lufega]

This might be better, since it includes elecampane and platycodon .

http://www.iherb.com...blets/1577?at=0

I've been meaning to get some for a while but it's always out of stock. Must be that good. Platycodon can also help heal the lung after the infection by activating the canonical beta-catenin pathway.

[Ark]

is also a cancer fighter.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21656353


This might be better, since it includes elecampane and platycodon .

http://www.iherb.com...blets/1577?at=0


" is employed chiefly in the treatment of respiratory
disorders, especially bronchitis, coughs, and catarrh. "

Respiratory Tract :

* bronchitis,
* inflammation of the respiratory tract
* respiratory catarrh,
* tuberculosis of the lungs and
* whooping cough.

http://www.wildcraft...Elecampane.html


Antimycobacterial eudesmanolides from Inula helenium
(elecampane) and Rudbeckia subtomentosa (Sweet coneflower).


http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=10364842


Platycodon (balloon flower) has also been used to treat TB,
and has anticancer effects as well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21052843

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=15749458

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=16890340



" Platycodon grandiflorum, as the traditional Chinese medicine,
has been employed for dispersing the lung and resolving
phlegm soothing the throat, and promoting pus discharge
in ancient days. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=17432133

Big thanks,

I'm going to give your suggestion a try. But at the same time, I should consider which on my list is easiest to treat first the TB / rare bacteria or would it make more sense to treat for flukes or fungus?

I'm thinking of treating myself for flukes/anti-fungal, also I plan on adding Sulfazine / Mullein / Elecampane and a strong Anti depressant (as serotonin can help repair damaged lungs) If that doesn't work I will push Garlic,Cordcyeps, strong new aged antibiotics and I'll super charge them by upping my body temperature and consuming tons of sugar.


As far as a new age TB treatment*(if the above plan doesn't hold) what length and which antibiotics should i try and mix to clear my right lung?

Ark

Edited by Ark, 22 December 2011 - 03:50 AM.

[tham]

That is why I have asked you to do a pleural biopsy.

Do a bronchoscope as well.

Go back to your chest doctor, and ask him to diagnose
properly exactly what is wrong with you, or see another
doctor if he can't.

You said they had tested you for TB. What test did they do ?
Was it the tuberculin test ? You can't diagnose TB alone
just from this test - lots of false positives and negatives.

In fact, my chest physician says it is virtually useless,
and he doesn't even bother with you.

TB is actually quite difficult to diagnose, and, as I have pointed
out, requires a highly experienced chest physician.

You seem to be a bit naive about TB and its treatment.
You can't just simply get some "new age antibiotics and
start treating yourself" for TB. That is playing with wildfire.

Mycobacterium tuberculosis is one of the hardiest and deadliest
microbe around which has survived unchanged in eons.

The bacterium has "armor plating" - it has a waxy shell
coating, making it impervious to most antibiotics.

It is in fact more deadly than HIV. Aids patients don't die
of HIV - they die from secondary infections, 40 per cent
of them TB.

Did you know that not many antibiotics have activity against TB ?
Virtually NONE of the cephalosporins - even the third and fourth
generation ones - can touch it, with the exception perhaps of
cefoxitin.

I could suggest the second line "advanced" regimen of
levofloxacin, minocycline and clarithromycin, or clarithomycin
plus ethambutol, but for some reason you are complacent
in finishing a course of 6 to 9 months, or you can't tolerate
it halfway, the bacteria can become resistant.

If it becomes EXTENSIVELY DRUG RESISTANT, you are
in big trouble. Even the best third and fourth generation
quinolones would be useless then.

Possibly only the old tetracyline, minocycline
might be able to save you then.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=19086436


The second line rifamycin drugs - rifabutin, rifapentine and
rifalazil are actually controlled by the government in Malaysia
for this very reason.

2,000 die from TB in Malaysia each year.

[Ark]

That is why I have asked you to do a pleural biopsy.

Do a bronchoscope as well.

Go back to your chest doctor, and ask him to diagnose
properly exactly what is wrong with you, or see another
doctor if he can't.

You said they had tested you for TB. What test did they do ?
Was it the tuberculin test ? You can't diagnose TB alone
just from this test - lots of false positives and negatives.

In fact, my chest physician says it is virtually useless,
and he doesn't even bother with you.

TB is actually quite difficult to diagnose, and, as I have pointed
out, requires a highly experienced chest physician.

You seem to be a bit naive about TB and its treatment.
You can't just simply get some "new age antibiotics and
start treating yourself" for TB. That is playing with wildfire.

Mycobacterium tuberculosis is one of the hardiest and deadliest
microbe around which has survived unchanged in eons.

The bacterium has "armor plating" - it has a waxy shell
coating, making it impervious to most antibiotics.

It is in fact more deadly than HIV. Aids patients don't die
of HIV - they die from secondary infections, 40 per cent
of them TB.

Did you know that not many antibiotics have activity against TB ?
Virtually NONE of the cephalosporins - even the third and fourth
generation ones - can touch it, with the exception perhaps of
cefoxitin.

I could suggest the second line "advanced" regimen of
levofloxacin, minocycline and clarithromycin, or clarithomycin
plus ethambutol, but for some reason you are complacent
in finishing a course of 6 to 9 months, or you can't tolerate
it halfway, the bacteria can become resistant.

If it becomes EXTENSIVELY DRUG RESISTANT, you are
in big trouble. Even the best third and fourth generation
quinolones would be useless then.

Possibly only the old tetracyline, minocycline
might be able to save you then.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=19086436


The second line rifamycin drugs - rifabutin, rifapentine and
rifalazil are actually controlled by the government in Malaysia
for this very reason.

2,000 die from TB in Malaysia each year.

I'd love to go, but the previous repeated wrong test by my doctors, maxed out myinsurance and they dropped me. I live in America, and at this point my best bet is Immist. My work does not offer any kind of reinbursement.

It's funny, you act as if I want to be sick or I'm too lazy to talk to a doctor but the truth is i did everything I could inside of the Washington State Multi-Care system , they went and blew 30 grand on useless test and now I'm forced to reply on E doctors or Immisnt members like yourself to help this Xmas season.

Thanks,
Merry Christmas
ARK

Edited by Ark, 24 December 2011 - 10:15 PM.

[niner]

i did everything I could inside of the Washington State Multi-Care system , they went and blew 30 grand on useless test

Washington State spent 30 grand on tests? I know tests can be expensive, but $30K is a lot of money. What did they do? Tham is right about TB. It's not something to self-treat.

[Ark]

Washington state multi care a private group practice , they would re-due tests multiple times for the same thing and wasted my ensurence. Like i said theres no free health care so it's win the lotto and see a doctor , or like i've said before self treat. My options are limited by money , the states aren't caring like the EU or Canada , No money= No treatment at the ER for this.

Edited by Ark, 25 December 2011 - 08:53 PM.

[tham]

In fact, my chest physician says it is virtually useless,
and he doesn't even bother with you.

Sorry, typo. "You" should read as "it" (the tuberculin test).

No, you misunderstood. It's not as if I think you are too
lazy to see a doctor.

I know you have seen one or more, it is just that I am
amazed that they had not done a pleural biopsy and
bronchoscopy. Any competent chest physician would
automatically follow up with those as essential diagnostic
procedures the moment he saw your pleural effusion on
the chest x-ray.

Did they treat the pleural effusion by sucking it out thru
a chest tube inserted into your right lung ?

My chest physician says that without treatment, pleural effusions
in TB tend to resolve on their own, but would take several weeks.

Pleural TB is the stage between primary and post-primary TB.
At this stage, which has not actually invaded your lungs yet,
80 per cent would recover without treament. The remaining
20 per cent would go on to develop full-blown TB. The aim
of treatment is to prevent this 20 per cent.

I am sorry that you were "messed up" by your state health
care system. Yes, I heard systems like Medicare and Medicaid
can be quite cumbersome and restrictive.

Over here in Malaysia, they don't provide you with state
medical insurance, but they had government hospitals and
welfare where you hardly have to pay anything for sophisticated
diagnostic tests and procedures.

An MRI in a private hospital here easily costs over M$1,000.
In the government hospital, if you tell their welfare office that
you cannot afford to pay, they will write it off as free.


But what test(s) did they do for you that cost $30,000 ?
A tuberculin test costs just $10 - 20 there ?

http://answers.yahoo...x?qid=200807011

http://www.muskegonh...s/health/tb.htm


Start with at least 1,000 iu of D3 now. Your macrophages
need it to fight TB. Deficiencies of D3 have been linked to
activation of latent TB.


I will post more on this later, probably in the TB thread.
Check them out in the meantime. Both have activity
against chest infections.

Monolaurin
Pelargonium sidoides, or African geranium.

[Luminosity]

"I'm thinking of treating myself for flukes/anti-fungal, also I plan on adding Sulfazine / Mullein / Elecampane and a strong Anti depressant (as serotonin can help repair damaged lungs) If that doesn't work I will push Garlic,Cordcyeps, strong new aged antibiotics and I'll super charge them by upping my body temperature and consuming tons of sugar."

I'm not familiar with using sugar in this way. Germs and cancer cells like to eat sugar so I would think you would be better off eating less sugar right now.

I've never heard that Serotonin and/or Anti-depressants can help repair damaged lungs. What evidence do you have that this is true? This doesn't sound like the best plan.

I'm sorry that western medicine has performed so poorly for you. It can be a miracle when done properly, but too often I hear stories like yours. That's why I like to use limited resources on Chinese Medicine and well-chosen supplements, diet and lifestyle modifications. I had some kind of lung "infection" (although I think in my case it was more of an adverse reaction to environmental chemicals and a hidden food allergy). I had a horrible loud hacking cough and phlegm in my lungs. The cough was so bad it pulled a muscle. It went on for months. I followed all the diet and lifestyle advice I gave to you earlier, and I went to an acupuncturist for about two treatments. I also took the herbs he gave me. I also discovered I had a hidden allergy to oats so I had to give up oatmeal. It was causing some of the phlegm in my lungs.

The problem was solved. It went away without a trace. I still drink Pu-erh tea.

So yeah, you could try fooling with more Western doctors. Somewhere out there is one who can help you. And a lot who won't.

Do you feel lucky punk? Do you?

You could try treating yourself with stuff you read about on the internet but it hasn't worked yet. Or you could go back to my earlier postings and follow all the diet and lifestyle advice. And avoid oats just in case. And you could find the best acupuncturist in your area and spend several hundred dollars on treatment. That's what I did. And it worked.

You should also write down what you eat and all the supplements/other substances you consume so I could look at them and see in there's anything bad in there. You might not realize it's bad. You wrote about Kava. I would avoid Kava because it has cold energy and you don't need that right now. I would avoid pot because it is something your liver and brain don't need to deal with right now. If you want to pursue this this, let me know if the food or drinks are cold or hot or room temperature. Tell me what your lungs are being exposed to. What kind of environment do you work in, live in exercise in? What do you use to clean your house? Do you have a deodorizer thing in your car? If you want to do this, I will help you but you'll have got send me a lot of information and answer a lot of questions. Feel free to send the information in a message if you don't want to post it here.

If you don't want to go this route, I was thinking you could try the sulfa-what-cha-callit drug again that worked before, but you'd at least have to get a prescription from a doctor and that's a hassle. And there's public health doctors since you may have something contagious, but you can't always predict what they may do. I would go my route because it's the least hassle for the most benefit, most of the time. I have been studying on wholistic medicine for thirty years and I'm willing to help you.

If you do want to do this, please make sure your writing is as clear and detailed as possible. Sometimes I have a hard time making out what you are saying. Thanks.

Edited by Luminosity, 29 December 2011 - 04:57 AM.

[niner]

Washington state multi care a private group practice , they would re-due tests multiple times for the same thing and wasted my ensurence. Like i said theres no free health care so it's win the lotto and see a doctor , or like i've said before self treat. My options are limited by money , the states aren't caring like the EU or Canada , No money= No treatment at the ER for this.

OK, so a private practice medical group maxed out your health insurance by running unnecessary tests multiple times. Hmm. That sounds like one of those groups that owns their own testing facilities and self-refers in order to rake in the cash. Also sounds like malpractice, or close.

What kind of insurance do you have? $30K sounds awfully low for a lifetime cap. Is it a yearly cap? Maybe you could find a competent doctor in the new year?

One of the ways in which the EU or Canada can afford to cover all their citizens is that they wouldn't allow a fraudulent practice like "Washington State Multi Care" to exist with that irresponsible business model.

[tham]

You mean you were treated by this nonprofit group ?

http://www.multicare.../pulmonary-care

[Ark]

You mean you were treated by this nonprofit group ?

http://www.multicare.../pulmonary-care

yes it was them ,

[Ark]

Update : Just came down from the flu, which made my lung problem much worse hopefully I will rebound and can start buying treatments for TB and Fungi infection as those two seem to be likely cause of this latent problem.

Will update when I buy a treatment.

Cheers and best wishs to those following this thread.

[Luminosity]

Maybe Tham can help you.

[Lufega]

If you have the flu, consider an OTC antiviral. Natural Factors makes a really good one with echinacea, lomatium, reishi and licorice. Also, maybe a nasal spary might help. Maybe something with xylitol.

The osmolyte xylitol reduces the salt concentration of airway surface liquid and may enhance bacterial killing.


Abstract

The thin layer of airway surface liquid (ASL) contains antimicrobial substances that kill the small numbers of bacteria that are constantly being deposited in the lungs. An increase in ASL salt concentration inhibits the activity of airway antimicrobial factors and may partially explain the pathogenesis of cystic fibrosis (CF). We tested the hypothesis that an osmolyte with a low transepithelial permeability may lower the ASL salt concentration, thereby enhancing innate immunity. We found that the five-carbon sugar xylitol has a low transepithelial permeability, is poorly metabolized by several bacteria, and can lower the ASL salt concentration in both CF and non-CF airway epithelia in vitro. Furthermore, in a double-blind, randomized, crossover study, xylitol sprayed for 4 days into each nostril of normal volunteers significantly decreased the number of nasal coagulase-negative Staphylococcus compared with saline control. Xylitol may be of value in decreasing ASL salt concentration and enhancing the innate antimicrobial defense at the airway surface.

[Ark]

Thanks for the good advise I did end up getting some Zince Vit C and Eninacea, I already take D and Vit K3.

I'm also going to add D-Cycloserine to my right lung protocal.


Thoughts?

[tham]

As I said, find out for sure if you have TB first.

And NIGHT SWEATS are a CLASSIC sympom of TB.

Do you have a chronic fever of about 38C and weight loss as well ?

If indeed you have TB, you CANNOT buy some medication and
treat yourself, you CANNOT take just a SINGLE drug, and
you CANNOT take it just for a month.

That, as I said, is playing with fire.

You are going to make the bacterium resistant, and if it
becomes MDR or XDR, you are in serious trouble.

You MUST get yourself treated by a competent chest doctor,
preferably in a hospital setting, and with a planned out drug
regimen, to be monitored over the 6 to 9 months, with liver
function and other tests.

As I understand, cycloserine is a second-line drug, used since
the 50s.

Where are you going to get it ?

This will give you an idea of how complex managing a difficult
and dangerous disease like TB is.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21828024

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21935462

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=20843416

[niner]

There is a crazy amount of miscommunication in this thread. Tham, after re-reading this thread, Ark never said he has active TB. His pulmonologist thinks everything is ok. He has bad post nasal drip, and his GP thought that he "had" something, which could either mean in the past or in the present. It was never clear. The GP apparently speculated about "lyme or TB", but I don't think that means much, given the negative dx from a pulmonologist and a hell of a lot of negative tests. If there hasn't been a tropical medicine consult, that might be a good idea, but it sounds like maybe Ark's insurance company has pulled the plug on him. I really have to question how they could spend thirty grand on diagnostic procedures and come up with nothing. Were they just re-running the same tests over and over again untill the money ran out?

[tham]

There was no miscommunication. I understood Ark.
However, he has given only scant information.

I'm suspecting he has TB, that was why I told him to find
out for sure, and "if indeed he has TB", he's playing with
fire treating himself.

He said he was tested negative for TB.

But what were the tests ? There are no specific tests, other
than the Tuberculin or Mantoux test, which is just a simple skin
test and is not accurate, with both false positives and negatives.
If you had your BCG as a kid, it may come out positive.

http://www.cdc.gov/t...skintesting.htm

http://www.mayoclini...s-and-diagnosis


TB is diagnosed from the overall clinical picture, with a chest x-ray,
pleural biopsy and bronchoscope.



I talked to my chest physician today and he said the cycloserine is
a second line drug controlled by the government, reserved for resistant
TB cases.

He was tested positive for lyme, and the clinical picture for lyme also
has some similarities with that of TB, such as night sweats and low grade
fever.

Ark has :

Night sweats
Pleural effusion in right lung
Intermittent cough

However, pleural effusions are quite rare in lyme.

http://www.jrheum.or.../4/811.abstract


And TB has a tendency to affect the RIGHT lung.

http://www.ncbi.nlm...._uids=208653769

http://www.ncbi.nlm....st_uids=9149616

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=17699935

http://www.ncbi.nlm....st_uids=1080887



He mentioned about "nodules at the top of his lung".

One other possibility could be Mycobacterium Avium Complex, MAC.

http://www.maclungdi...ew&id=32<iid=55


If he can get a pleural biopsy, and it shows he has necrotized granulomas,
then one can be 99 per certain he has pleural TB.

Only TB presents with the dual symptom of pleural effusion
and necrotized granulomas.

Combine that with low-grade fever of around 102 F (38 C)
and weight loss, it's TB for sure.


On night sweats.

http://www.aafp.org/...0301/p1019.html

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Night_sweats


More on TB.

http://www.tbalert.o...is/symptoms.php

Edited by tham, 16 January 2012 - 06:39 PM.

[Luminosity]

Can we find out about the public health resources in Washington State? Are they any good?

This country is spending money on this:

http://crofsblogs.ty...ish-county.html

Edited by Luminosity, 17 January 2012 - 04:21 AM.

[Ark]

As I said, find out for sure if you have TB first.

And NIGHT SWEATS are a CLASSIC sympom of TB.

Do you have a chronic fever of about 38C and weight loss as well ?

If indeed you have TB, you CANNOT buy some medication and
treat yourself, you CANNOT take just a SINGLE drug, and
you CANNOT take it just for a month.

That, as I said, is playing with fire.

You are going to make the bacterium resistant, and if it
becomes MDR or XDR, you are in serious trouble.

You MUST get yourself treated by a competent chest doctor,
preferably in a hospital setting, and with a planned out drug
regimen, to be monitored over the 6 to 9 months, with liver
function and other tests.

As I understand, cycloserine is a second-line drug, used since
the 50s.

Where are you going to get it ?

This will give you an idea of how complex managing a difficult
and dangerous disease like TB is.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21828024

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=21935462

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=20843416

Like i said the skin test hasn't worked on me in the past, which from what I understand really doesn't mean much unless your in a active stage of TB.

Public Health Service will do a skin test and that's about it if they choose to help me at all.

I'm really forced to go to a online pharmacy and buy treatment myself i know the risk but what can I say it's better then doing nothing.

[Ark]

There was no miscommunication. I understood Ark.
However, he has given only scant information.

I'm suspecting he has TB, that was why I told him to find
out for sure, and "if indeed he has TB", he's playing with
fire treating himself.

He said he was tested negative for TB.

But what were the tests ? There are no specific tests, other
than the Tuberculin or Mantoux test, which is just a simple skin
test and is not accurate, with both false positives and negatives.
If you had your BCG as a kid, it may come out positive.

http://www.cdc.gov/t...skintesting.htm

http://www.mayoclini...s-and-diagnosis


TB is diagnosed from the overall clinical picture, with a chest x-ray,
pleural biopsy and bronchoscope.



I talked to my chest physician today and he said the cycloserine is
a second line drug controlled by the government, reserved for resistant
TB cases.

He was tested positive for lyme, and the clinical picture for lyme also
has some similarities with that of TB, such as night sweats and low grade
fever.

Ark has :

Night sweats
Pleural effusion in right lung
Intermittent cough

However, pleural effusions are quite rare in lyme.

http://www.jrheum.or.../4/811.abstract


And TB has a tendency to affect the RIGHT lung.

http://www.ncbi.nlm...._uids=208653769

http://www.ncbi.nlm....st_uids=9149616

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=17699935

http://www.ncbi.nlm....st_uids=1080887



He mentioned about "nodules at the top of his lung".

One other possibility could be Mycobacterium Avium Complex, MAC.

http://www.maclungdi.....&id=32<iid=55


If he can get a pleural biopsy, and it shows he has necrotized granulomas,
then one can be 99 per certain he has pleural TB.

Only TB presents with the dual symptom of pleural effusion
and necrotized granulomas.

Combine that with low-grade fever of around 102 F (38 C)
and weight loss, it's TB for sure.


On night sweats.

http://www.aafp.org/...0301/p1019.html

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Night_sweats


More on TB.

http://www.tbalert.o...is/symptoms.php

I have a question?, What's it like when you first get TB; I remember when I was exposed to my uncle who was in top level quarantine in New Zealand hospital for TB and he ended up died from it. My family took the body back to the house and had the body for days and days exposed before the we buried him. ( Now this wasn't anything to do with me and i thought it seemed a bit dangerous,) but Fijian customs have it so you board the front door up decorate the coffin with flowers etc and that you keep the body for mourning until the funeral. While the body was in the living in the house i was staying, I came down with a bad fever and felt as I had the flu (worst case ever) I didn't puke I just felt awful and i can't help but feel this is when I caught it. (It was really bad for about 24-48 hours) My family said I ate some bad fish and chips and after a day of what i thought was salmonella too. I sort ofrecovered I came back and developed a mild cough among the rest of the symptomatic problems which has now turned into this thread.


I sincerely thank you for your effort! if I can cure myself I will follow my dream and join the French Foreign Legion.

[Ark]

Should I consider Methylene Blue for TB, in conjunction with stranded therapy?

[tham]

Hello Ark,

You still haven't provided the info which I keep asking you.
All you are giving are just bits here and there. How is anybody
going to help you ?

Upload your blood tests and other doctors' reports. If you know
how to scan your x-rays, upload them.

If you don't want to upload them, then, what is your :

ESR
CA125
Lymphocyte count
Liver function tests

Do you have :

A fever of 102 F (38 C) or above, whether chronic or intermittent,
for the past two or three weeks

Weight loss



http://www.ams.ac.ir...arhadi9924.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm....v/books/NBK324/

http://www.livestron...s-tuberculosis/

http://www.harrisons....0/Tuberculosis

http://www.merckmanu...berculosis.html

http://myhealthbowl....-and-treatment/


http://www.supercode...ent-challenges/

Edited by tham, 17 January 2012 - 12:40 PM.

[tham]

As for your pleural effusion, did it resolve on its own,
or did they do a thoracentesis (pleural tap, chest tube) ?

http://www.charlesto...logy.com/?p=355

[Ark]

Hello Ark,

You still haven't provided the info which I keep asking you.
All you are giving are just bits here and there. How is anybody
going to help you ?

Upload your blood tests and other doctors' reports. If you know
how to scan your x-rays, upload them.

If you don't want to upload them, then, what is your :

ESR
CA125
Lymphocyte count
Liver function tests

Do you have :

A fever of 102 F (38 C) or above, whether chronic or intermittent,
for the past two or three weeks

Weight loss



http://www.ams.ac.ir...arhadi9924.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm....v/books/NBK324/

http://www.livestron...s-tuberculosis/

http://www.harrisons....0/Tuberculosis

http://www.merckmanu...berculosis.html

http://myhealthbowl....-and-treatment/


http://www.supercode...ent-challenges/

It's because I don't have any current tests, I can ask for all the tests from years ago when I had insurance- I will make a point to get my charts, but will older tests help ?

I will see what I can come up with this week, thanks for your renewed interest-

Ark

Edited by Ark, 18 January 2012 - 06:15 AM.

[Ark]

As for your pleural effusion, did it resolve on its own,
or did they do a thoracentesis (pleural tap, chest tube) ?

http://www.charlesto...logy.com/?p=355

It comes and goes, which as I understand means my body basically walls off a part of lung(nodel?)

I had the most overworked doctors, they kept testing me for ASAMA and everything else under the sun(because i passed a skin test). I begged them to take a lung biopsy but they wanted me to bring in coughed up sample, so I did and they had mixed results something grew they called me in for emergency and then told me it was a false alarm and wanted another sample at which time my insurance stopped.

[tham]

What do you mean, "years ago" ? The hospital tests had been
done years ago, they were still not sure what was wrong with
you then, and now only you are seeking treatment ??

I need current test results, and any doctor would too, for that matter.

It's unlikely to be TB then, since you would have deteriorated badly by now.
Like I emphasized before, you need to be investigated by a chest doctor
thoroughly.

And I wonder what is wrong with your IQ. Even if I had to ask
you directly, as in my last post, surely you would have noted
me bringing up the issue of fever and weight loss at least twice
before that, which are two classical symptoms of TB ? Yet you
remained silent on that.

For the umpteenth time, DO YOU HAVE :

FEVER

WEIGHT LOSS ?

[Luminosity]

Whoa.

I don't understand why you said before your uncle had an undiagnosed lung infection, but now you say he had TB and was in quarrantine for it? Can you explain the discrepancy?

The TB Control project in your county said they no longer operate their own clinics due to budget cuts. They said they would refer you to community clinics where you may have already been, the ones who do the negative skin tests.

Basically, you have to make a more consistent effort to resolve this, whether you go with Western medicine or Chinese medicine. The world will never treat you better than you treat yourself, in fact, it's impossible for people to help you until you get out of your own way.

As I said before, that would mean giving up pot, kava or other substances so you have maximum clarity and follow through. We've had to pull the needed details out of you and that should not have been. Some people who consume marajuana are bad with details, clarity and follow through. It's delusional to believe that you can cure this with random vitamins.

I continue to hope that you will take the advice I gave you earlier. I think that's the most likely way for you to be cured. I just read about someone being cured of tuberculosis by Chinese medicine a few days ago. Today she is a practioner with her own clinic. (Esther Ting, Phd. Santa Monica, California)

I'm tempted not to read this thread anymore because I can't take it. I hope you get it together. If you want my help, you might have to send me a message, or preferably, just follow the advice I already wrote here.

Edited by Luminosity, 19 January 2012 - 03:14 AM.

[Ark]

What do you mean, "years ago" ? The hospital tests had been
done years ago, they were still not sure what was wrong with
you then, and now only you are seeking treatment ??

I need current test results, and any doctor would too, for that matter.

It's unlikely to be TB then, since you would have deteriorated badly by now.
Like I emphasized before, you need to be investigated by a chest doctor
thoroughly.

And I wonder what is wrong with your IQ. Even if I had to ask
you directly, as in my last post, surely you would have noted
me bringing up the issue of fever and weight loss at least twice
before that, which are two classical symptoms of TB ? Yet you
remained silent on that.

For the umpteenth time, DO YOU HAVE :

FEVER

WEIGHT LOSS ?

Yes, I do, I had another thread and thought I had mentioned it before as for my IQ it gets me by thanks.


I'm at 189 holding , when i came back from my trip I lost a ton of weight that i could never lose before, like fat around my midsection sort of thing.

I've been a MMA/Judoka for 10 years prior to getting sick and was on my way to the UFC before getting sick.

I was 225 built like a wrestler/power lifter(not fat) as soon as I got back from New Zealand and started having night sweats I got super lean, right now I look like Brad pitt from fight club. This is a silly question but once i lose what's wrong with me will i become a mesomorph again?

I've had night sweats since getting this cough and I've had trouble keeping on weight onside of muscle.



There's a huge snowstorm and I couldn't go to Multicare to get my files today.