Can anybody believe how kind this discussion is (not only that; perform a search on section8's posts and you judge if they have genuinely added any bit of value to the topic under which this forum is named)?
As I stated before, Nootropi is not planning on leaving. He is using this situation because all of his other attention getting devices have been exhausted.
Section 8 is a valuable poster/moderator on the Avant forums (of which you have been banned, Nootropi).
I have cut and pasted his post from this thread:
http://www.imminst.o...37&t=5188&st=20------------
For those who don't know me, I am Section 8. I moderate a sub forum at Avant Labs, and I contribute to their online magazine. I am not financially compensated for any of my involvements with the company. That said...
The distinction between individual / community is purely pragmatic. There is a political dimension to every action. There is no epistemological chasm separating the rational from the political. Adam was banned at AL for violating the board TOS. He broke the law of the land and was expelled for it; it is in that sense, and in that sense only, that the reason for banning him could be said to be "political." Those actions included, but by no means were limited to:
1) Unlawfully posting copyrighted information, on repeated occasions. He was warned to cease such postings, yet the activities did not cease. Avant could be held liable for that by the copyright holders. He does the same thing here; he even edited some of his violative posts, removing the offending information, and replacing it with links to the SAME content that he had unlawfully posted here.
2) Proferring medical advice without the proper qualifications. He was warned about this repeatedly, yet did not stop.
3) Proferring poorly thought out and potentially dangerous supplement regimens. This one sort of took care of itself; AL is a very science-minded community, and so very few members ever took his recommendations seriously. Nonetheless, some did, and I had to spend two hours one night debunking his entire scheme. There is also the issue that, though the AL community as such is very science minded, not everyone else is. As was mentioned above, many people who post in the CC forum aren't even aware that it is part of a larger site; they found their way there via google, or some other means. We take the content of our site very seriously, and I shudder to think of what some poor soul who is just searching the web for some advice might do to himself if he were to stumble across Adam's posts. None of us want that on our shoulders.
If you are in need of a rather egregious example of 2 and 3, just check out his thread: Suggestions for those with large budgets
http://www.imminst.o...romocriptine&s= Hydergine, bromocriptine, deprenyl, aricept, &c. ?!? I can't put into words the anger and disbelief that I felt when I read those recommendations. For a person with normal neurological functioning, that's a recipe for instant psychosis. If that is what some consider to be good content, then they have probably just taken too much of Adam's advice.
4) Making wholly unsubstantiated and libelous claims about both individuals and companies.
5) Inappropriate conduct. He was warned by several moderators about this, repeatedly. In one such instance, he actually had the nerve to respond to the head of Avant Research's request that he cease and desist with the comment that he would not do so, on account of his feeling that his flamboyant posting habits were "necessary to get [his] point across," and that anyone who did not feel compelled to conduct themselves in such a manner simply lacked "character."
The list goes on, and on, and on.
I just signed onto this board, and agreed to the ImmInst TOS. In the process, I acknowledged this statement:
"ImmInst has a zero tolerance policy for any individual or group which tries to disrupt the usual flow of information in the ImmInst forums or chat room."
I think it's been well-established at this point that the majority of members here feel that Adam is the living embodiment of the hypothetical individual described in this statement. For those who feel that he contributes useful information, I am compelled to point out that 1) the vast majority of what he posts can be found in seconds with a simple pubmed search, 2) some of the "academic" information that he brings to the table he does so unlawfully, and 3) in almost every instance I have ever seen of him actually interpreting the results of studies, the inferences he has derived are flawed at best and outright dangerous at worst.
If the administrators of this site felt and continue to feel that it is Adam's "right" to utilize this forum as a medium for disseminating hazardous information to the population at large, then that is their prerogative. It is not the prerogative of the community over at AL. That is really all there is to the situation.
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