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Wowie Zowie!
Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:38 AM
Posted 04 January 2012 - 06:39 AM
Yea, but they said also systemic, and that probably means some sort of stem cell niche rejuvenation. Now if administration of transcription factors alone were to suffice... good idea for the next imminst multi.There must be some sort of paracrine signaling going on, as progeric cells placed near, but not touching the young stem cells in culture reverted to a more youthful form.
Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:31 PM
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:02 PM
Has anyone read the original article. Those of in the UK will know that the Daily Mail has "We're all going to live forever" stories twice a week, alternating with "x causes cancer" stories and they are usually not a reliable source of information. One study found a very high percentage of their stories were actually factually wrong ( I don't recall the % but it was high......Ben Goldacre of the Bad Science column and books ) and some stories actually reversed the findings of the research they purported to report.
Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:07 PM
Has anyone read the original article. Those of in the UK will know that the Daily Mail has "We're all going to live forever" stories twice a week, alternating with "x causes cancer" stories and they are usually not a reliable source of information.
Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:18 PM
I agree niner, this really feels like something similar to the young mouse-old mouse-blood linking experiment, which brings to mind this thought: I wonder why nobody has tried the blood linking in humans? If the people are the same blood type would it work? I suppose it would seem a bit "creepy" in the popular culture, but it would seem to be an experiment that could produce an explosion of data and theory into the aging process
Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:23 PM
I agree niner, this really feels like something similar to the young mouse-old mouse-blood linking experiment, which brings to mind this thought: I wonder why nobody has tried the blood linking in humans? If the people are the same blood type would it work? I suppose it would seem a bit "creepy" in the popular culture, but it would seem to be an experiment that could produce an explosion of data and theory into the aging process
True but as the younger animal seems to suffer from accelerated aging from the treatment, would you allow your child to be used for such an experiment, I wouldn't .
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 11:32 PM
Certainly not artificial blood, unless we could figure out exactly what the magic ingredients are. Cord blood is loaded with stem cells and all manner of things. It would probably be beneficial. What if we got transfusions of blood from young donors? It seems like that ought to work, though it might require a massive quantity. In the growing '-omics' universe, the study of small bioactive molecules in biological fluids is called metabolomics. The metabolome of human blood has undoubtedly been characterized in both young and old subjects, so they could be compared.
Posted 09 January 2012 - 11:55 PM
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:33 PM
Why wait for experiments in humans? If it works in mice it's almost bound to work in humans (fallacious statement I know). How about let's do our own experiment and get a few members of the Longecity community to buy younger blood of the same blood type and transfuse it into their bodies. Those same people could then buy some stem cells and inject themselves every so often and presto a perfect anti aging regimen! I bet there are people out there actually doing this. Most people buy supplements and other crap when they could be using real stuff that actually works.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:49 PM
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:09 AM
Why wait for experiments in humans? If it works in mice it's almost bound to work in humans (fallacious statement I know). How about let's do our own experiment and get a few members of the Longecity community to buy younger blood of the same blood type and transfuse it into their bodies. Those same people could then buy some stem cells and inject themselves every so often and presto a perfect anti aging regimen! I bet there are people out there actually doing this. Most people buy supplements and other crap when they could be using real stuff that actually works.
Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:31 AM
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 03:02 PM
<br>Haha, right. And i was wondering why no one was willing to get down to talk science with the folks here. Or did we overdo on the garlic?Meanwhile, we need to place an ad on Craigslist looking for the blood of children. Someone should fire off an email to ToV. Sounds like it's right up their alley.
Posted 11 January 2012 - 04:24 PM
OK, this may look like a rant but.....
First, British newspapers are Superior to US newspapers. Why? They offer a measure of hope and the same sort of inspiration that those old issues of Popular Mechanics and Popular Science used to do. It was called Visionary Science. It made guys study Calculus so they could build Moon Rockets ( to get the girls found on page three!). This sense of inspiration is exactly why I avoid Scientific American and read the New Scientist instead.
And reporting anti-aging news? On prominent pages? You mean the pages absorbed by news about Kardashians or useless Republicrats personal failings in US newspapers? The pages devoted to whatever worthless personality the Elite have decided to emphasize over and above what's really important? Like life extension? I'm not naive - British newspapers and magazines can be loaded with junk but at least they report SOMETHING uplifting and visionary above the dead hand of US media bulk fill.
OK, rant over.......
Posted 11 January 2012 - 08:22 PM
<br>Haha, right. And i was wondering why no one was willing to get down to talk science with the folks here. Or did we overdo on the garlic?Meanwhile, we need to place an ad on Craigslist looking for the blood of children. Someone should fire off an email to ToV. Sounds like it's right up their alley.
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