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[jpfritz]

Just started taking Noopept 3 days ago. I started 10mg twice a day...this morning I upped to "about" 20mg due to the crazyness involved with measuring via the .0001mg scale....I finally figured getting to 10mg is very tricky with that scale so I get close to 20 and then with the residue remaining on the tweezers that you can NEVER get off back in the bag, lol, it will equal "about" 20mg.

So my question is I think I read you should be taking it twice a day. If so, is the more "recommended" doseage I read 20mg to 30mg twice a day?

I am taking Alpha Brain with it, and this morning I started getting headaches and my head was more cloudy then normal...granted it unfortunately was almosy an hour between them, and not sure if that was what occurred.

I am thinking of ordering Aniracetam to take with it since I hear they are "synergistic" and also Aniracetam gives the mood lifter that I really need.



Any thoughts on doseage and combinations will be appreciated. Also, if I order Aniracetam already in capsules will that be something that can be beneficial? or do you have to take Aniracetam in powder?

thanks,
JP

[Crispy Cat]

you can swallow aniracetam in any form and will have the same effects gram for gram,
however it tastes better in pills and is easier to consume and carry but will also cost more than uncapped powder!

noopept requires only small doses 10 to 15 mg should be ample and 3 or 2 times a day to total up to 30mg daily.. at least that is most popular from accounts on this forum!
in all truth as you will have a different brain chemistry, diet and body weight to any other person using it.. so what you need to do is find your perfect dose .. start at 5mg for a few days and work your way up few days at each dose noting how it affected you each day then review the data to work out your sweet spot ... as for how many times per day that depends on when you feel it wearing off and what you need to do that much later in the day
for example taking noopept 10 min before bed is probably unnecessary unless you are doing a specific test on its effects over sleep however a dose before an evening study session could certainly have its place!
unfortunately nootropic dosages are not a simple matter and you should not rush into adding other chemicals!
each chemical you put into your body should be given its own test period to determine its perfect dose before being mixed with a previously tested chemical

i personally would drop alpha brain out of the equazion .. it sounds expensive and uses hardcore advertising methods similar to those used by energy drink manufacturers to try sell the perfect all in one!
also id argue that the doses in it are not optimal (as described above) and it contains an acetylcholine supplement in alpha gpc as well as an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor in the form of L hupazine a(this stops the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine) which could potentially leave someone who doesn't cycle it with too much acetylcholine which can have undesirable effects!

ok finally on to the scale issue... if you are using cheap scales eg $30 from amazon you will most likely find that they are not accurate until you get over a certain weight.. for this i have in the past put a (clean) coin on the scale , noted its weight and then added the desired chemical on top of the coin.. for example coin weighs 1.344 g and we want 10mg noopept you add noopept to the coin using a small piece of plastic until you get 1.354 g
(i like the plastic coffee stirrers that you get from small cafes)

hopefully that will help you some

Edited by Crispy Cat, 22 October 2012 - 10:06 PM.

[Crispy Cat]

on further googling ive found a article that pretty much says what my first impression of alpha brains marketing was http://www.scienceba...ement-industry/

[jpfritz]

you can swallow aniracetam in any form and will have the same effects gram for gram,
however it tastes better in pills and is easier to consume and carry but will also cost more than uncapped powder!

noopept requires only small doses 10 to 15 mg should be ample and 3 or 2 times a day to total up to 30mg daily.. at least that is most popular from accounts on this forum!
in all truth as you will have a different brain chemistry, diet and body weight to any other person using it.. so what you need to do is find your perfect dose .. start at 5mg for a few days and work your way up few days at each dose noting how it affected you each day then review the data to work out your sweet spot ... as for how many times per day that depends on when you feel it wearing off and what you need to do that much later in the day
for example taking noopept 10 min before bed is probably unnecessary unless you are doing a specific test on its effects over sleep however a dose before an evening study session could certainly have its place!
unfortunately nootropic dosages are not a simple matter and you should not rush into adding other chemicals!
each chemical you put into your body should be given its own test period to determine its perfect dose before being mixed with a previously tested chemical

i personally would drop alpha brain out of the equazion .. it sounds expensive and uses hardcore advertising methods similar to those used by energy drink manufacturers to try sell the perfect all in one!
also id argue that the doses in it are not optimal (as described above) and it contains an acetylcholine supplement in alpha gpc as well as an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor in the form of L hupazine a(this stops the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine) which could potentially leave someone who doesn't cycle it with too much acetylcholine which can have undesirable effects!

ok finally on to the scale issue... if you are using cheap scales eg $30 from amazon you will most likely find that they are not accurate until you get over a certain weight.. for this i have in the past put a (clean) coin on the scale , noted its weight and then added the desired chemical on top of the coin.. for example coin weighs 1.344 g and we want 10mg noopept you add noopept to the coin using a small piece of plastic until you get 1.354 g
(i like the plastic coffee stirrers that you get from small cafes)

hopefully that will help you some

Thank you for your information! I was not aware two of the ingreidents in Alpha Brain were semi cancelling the benefits out of each other. I have read that Alpha GPC is the best Choline to take with the "racitams". How much of Alpha GPC should you take?

also, so it sounds like the 20mg plus i took this morning might have been too much for me. I was SERIOUSLY brain scattered....my thoughts were all over the place and I was feeling very distressed/alone/despair-ish. I am currently on a small doseage of Effexor which is why I am interrested in getting Aniracetam due to the "uplifting Mood enhancer effect along with the diminished negative thoughts" while taking it. I know I have read that the nootropics do not co-incide or have any negative reaction with ssris like effexor so I am pretty sure it was not that. It sounds like it might have been too large a doseage along with the Alpha Brain not helping.

So just to be clear, you put a coin on the scale and then place a small amount of Noopept on the coin and when you get the corrct 10mg amount you just remove it with your finger from the coin and place in your mouth?

thanks again,
JP

[Crispy Cat]

its not so much canceling it out .. alpha gpc gives you more choline and l hupa stops choline being broken down and excreted from the brain . so over time you would build up an excess of choline which can provide negative effects!

I also get a bit confused when i take too much noopept! its almost as though my eyes are distracting any linear thought process !
so i would agree it sounds like you took too much for your brain chemistry!
i find 10 mg 2 or 3 times per day to be plenty

taking choline with racetams is widely debated!
alot of people seem to come to the conclusion that its only necessary if you are deficient in which case you will get headaches when taking racetams!
personally i like to take 500mg alpha gpc every other day just to top up my natural supply which i receive from eating eggs and meats
you will know if you are taking too much as you will get neck stiffness and some people experience a downward mood known as choline blues

yes the coin is just a platform.. how you get the powder from the coin to under your tongue is your choice
the coin just gives a little weight to the scale so its not trying to read from 0 which alot of the cheaper scales have problems with!