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how do you call a non-stem cell?


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#1 caliban

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 10:04 PM


i.e. a somatic, fully differentiated, fully committed, non-senescent, workers bee-type normal friggin cell ?

is there a single bloody word for it?

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 02:15 AM

I think committed is pretty good. It says that it does not have a developmental choice, which is the key stem cell criterion. There is no stem cell that is committed and no non-stem cell (except a germ cell) that is not committed. Depending on where in the continuum of differentiation you are, you can say fully, strongly, partially committed, ect.

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 02:48 AM

Post-mitotic means it is not dividing (literally "after division") and is a term you will often find in science papers. I think if one considers that stem cells can specialize and therefore be differentiated, or transdifferentiated (take on a different tissue speciality), or dedifferentiated (become less specialized and more pluripotent) then by exlusion the only cells that are not either active or potential stem cells can only be post-mitotic cells or more specifically - because post-mitotic can also describe the phase immediately after mitosis and therefore lead to ambiguity - non-mitotic. This too can be misconstrued since it could imply a transient rather than permanent non-mitotic state. Irreversible non-mitotic state perhaps?

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#4 John Schloendorn

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:33 AM

But Prometheus, there are multiple cell types that are mitotic, but commonly not called stem cells e.g. beta cells, hepatocytes, fibroblasts. (though they can undergo transient non-mitotic periods)

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 01:54 PM

I know, but their ability to divide implies that they have an element of "stemness" even if it is only to be the possibility of tumorigenesis.

#6 caliban

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 12:19 PM

prometheus:

their ability to divide

caliban:

non-senescent


senescence describes an essentially irreversible arrest of cell division [Campisi]

thus
Post-mitotic = senescent ? [glasses]

maybe, but thats not what I'm after.

John:

I think committed is pretty good. It says that it does not have a developmental choice, which is the key stem cell criterion.


Is it? Does an ES cell have a "choice"? Are we off to a free will debate now? [tung]

Thanks for the input guys. I guess it boils down to the question if there is such a thing as a unipotent stem / progenitor cell.

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 12:36 PM

senescence describes an essentially irreversible arrest of cell division [Campisi]

thus
Post-mitotic = senescent ?

Well, I think the difference is in the mechanism. Senescence would apply also to cells that perhaps should be dividing (e.g. they were stem cells), but due to safety mechanisms, their mitotic ability has been disabled. On the other hand, I wouldn't consider most of my brain cells senescent, even though they are post-mitotic.




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