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[HealthyLiving]

Hi.

Let's say that you havent sleept enough for the two latest days except for caffeine and exercise what would help?

I am looking for an alterness and memory.

Thank

[matthewebbert]

Purposefully go to bed earlier each night. Don’t smoke or drink alcoholic or caffeinated beverages in the hours before bedtime.Use relaxation techniques to help you fall asleep quickly.

[renfr]

Megadose fish oil.

[niner]

I think the OP is looking for a pill that will compensate for lack of sleep in the short term. At least I hope it's short term, because trying to get by on too little sleep sure as hell isn't Healthy Living. Sorry, I don't really have an answer for that. HealthyLiving, is the problem insomnia, or are you just staying up too late and/or getting up too early?

[zorba990]

Glycine
http://www.ergo-log....ork-better.html
may be of some use.

[renfr]

Glycine would increase serotonin and makes him even more tired.
In fact glycine was in the center of a japanese study where patients took 3g glycine and had faster sleep onset than control.

[norepinephrine]

PDE4 inhibition counteracts sleep deprivation - http://www.scienceda...91026125401.htm

Over at the Brain Health subforum, a number of us have had success with the CILTEP stack (a PDE4 inhibitor, e.g., kanna or luteolin, coupled with a cAMP enhancer, e.g., forskolin).

Anecdotally, I've also had good luck with cold showers and easily digested antioxidant-rich foods (e.g., fresh vegetable juice, green smoothies) to counteract sleep deprivation's effects on my academic performance. Brief naps are an additional godsend.

[HealthyLiving]

I think the OP is looking for a pill that will compensate for lack of sleep in the short term. At least I hope it's short term, because trying to get by on too little sleep sure as hell isn't Healthy Living. Sorry, I don't really have an answer for that. HealthyLiving, is the problem insomnia, or are you just staying up too late and/or getting up too early?

Yes, my question is from a short term perspective.

Edited by HealthyLiving, 27 July 2013 - 10:23 AM.

[BLimitless]

Eat or drink a BIG smoothie containing spinach, kale, broccoli, wheatgrass, chlorella, spirulina, barleygrass, cacao.

This will magic away the fatigue, and leave you feeling like you have just woken up from a deep refreshing sleep.

Whatever of these you have available, mix them all together and dose heavy. They MUST be raw and fresh, if they are not then they lack the living enzymes and life-force which is the direct antidote to the sleep-deprivation induced death state.

Add raw fresh living ginger in some tea. Green tea is excellent for combating the fatigue due to the antioxidants and other nutrients. Lots of water, green tea, ginger, lemon. This will sort you right out too, but combined with the smoothie you can go for very long days. I used to live 40hr days and have 3-4hr sleep in between, and these are the techniques developed so they speak for themselves.



Essentially you need to

- Prevent inflammation
- Scoop up free radicals & inhibit oxidative stress
- Restore rinsed nutrients
- Maximise relaxation
- Minimise fatigue



So deep slow breathing is very important here. Sleep deprivation's negative effects are caused largely by oxidative stress and its cascade negative effects on the body. Slowing your breathing right down and moving very slowly, harmoniously, gracefully, will make it each hour of sleep deprivation far less damaging. Really the majority of negative effects from sleep deprivation come from exerting too much (high heart rate) and nutrient loss as the day goes on. The longer you are awake for, the faster sleep deprivation rinses the nutrient supply.


Avoid raising the heart rate at all costs, the more relaxed you are the less sleep deprivation is a problem. Sleep is the direct antidote to stress. No stress, no sleep needed. Minimise stress by maximising raw fresh nutrient intake and sleep is far less of an issue. Preserve sexual energy too; abstaining from ejaculation will lead to a significantly decreased sleep requirement.


I notice that heat and exertion makes it much much worse, pointing to oxidative stress as the prime fatigue generator. If you keep cool and keep non-exerting, then your need for sleep can be very small. A really meditative person can knock themselves into a low power state and run for days on little sleep with no actual negative effects, purely by keeping the body in a state where there is no room or reason for negative effects to actually arise.

Edited by BLimitless, 28 July 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[hippocampus]

+1 on cold shower, although the effects are short lasting (1-2 hours IME). Turmeric/curcumin also gives me insomnia sometimes (if used infrequently, IME).

Edited by hippocampus, 28 July 2013 - 09:21 PM.

[TheFountain]

Sheer Exhaustion from hard work outs. And a tiny dose of melatonin.

May I ask why exercise is out of the question?

[HealthyLiving]

Sheer Exhaustion from hard work outs. And a tiny dose of melatonin.

May I ask why exercise is out of the question?

Because I already knew that exercise would help, I was looking for something new.

Nothing is wrong with exercise, but it's nice to have a new trick to use.

[TheFountain]

Sheer Exhaustion from hard work outs. And a tiny dose of melatonin.

May I ask why exercise is out of the question?

Because I already knew that exercise would help, I was looking for something new.

Nothing is wrong with exercise, but it's nice to have a new trick to use.

Try 500 mcgs of melatonin every other night till it is under control. You will find that melatonin supplementation actually helps you self correct the problem.