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[Babychris]

Hey, as usual I'm sorry for the bad english, I hope someday it will become easily understandable (if you want, point my mistakes and tell me how you consider my english level)

So today I'm here, because a girl leaved me, in 1 week of relationship.. That's kind of humiliating.

The problem is that the girl was in love with me since a long time, and she finds me boring as hell when we met in a more serious way : it's a serious pain in the ass.

I'm not very friendly with girl interaction, considering this as useless in a fundemantal referential.

But since I'm on SSRI (Escitalopram), I want to be bad, I don't want to stay in my kindness state of mind/purity soul. Enough it's enough
and more I think it could be fun to work with brain plasticity. Then I see "become an alpha male" more like a game than something else. I know that on this forum most of us are not this kind of guy's but do you think that some supps could help with this statement ?

[jly1986]

Babychris,

There's enough alpha jackass jerks in the world. Do you really want to become like them? Be true to yourself, and when the time is right, the love meant for you will find you. After all, your true match may not like the alpha type in the first place, and you will not find her if you change. Find the courage and serenity to be yourself, and you will find peace, which is much more precious than anything else.

[Galaxyshock]

True alpha is not a jackass jerk. A jackass jerk is still better than a wussy when it comes to succeeding in this world. But an alpha male in my opinion is someone who has all the qualities like kindness, drive, controlled aggression, empathy etc. in harmony and has internalized his status through strength of a character and people respect him for it. That's something to aim for instead of going to some extreme with drugs. Surely some substances can help by pushing you to the right direction. The SSRI probably doesn't help.

[Babychris]

I don't want to be a "jackass", but I don't want to be this stupid guy treated like a toy though..

I guess you all know that smart people like us could be in some situation "god-likes" but the fact is that in public it's very hard to stay all the time ourselves not because we will enter in a roleplay but more because of our shyness/lack of self insurance.
I suffer too from a lack of steadyness which make me paranoid, I feel all the time that I'm not myself..

But I'm sooooo sad to know it's partially due to SSRI, before I was on, I was sooo sad but sooo good, now I feel insipid, and I can't admit that the girl don't love me but I prefer to say that the girl don't love the drug which control me. Oops my last sentances looks a bit like a paradox

Edited by Babychris, 13 June 2013 - 11:46 AM.

[renfr]

True alpha is not a jackass jerk. A jackass jerk is still better than a wussy when it comes to succeeding in this world. But an alpha male in my opinion is someone who has all the qualities like kindness, drive, controlled aggression, empathy etc. in harmony and has internalized his status through strength of a character and people respect him for it. That's something to aim for instead of going to some extreme with drugs. Surely some substances can help by pushing you to the right direction. The SSRI probably doesn't help.

I second that.
What he calls alpha male is not an alpha male but rather an alpha male substitute (if the alpha male disappears then it's him taking the lead), I'd say he's your average jerk, a true alpha male is not a jackass at all.

[jly1986]

True alpha is not a jackass jerk. A jackass jerk is still better than a wussy when it comes to succeeding in this world. But an alpha male in my opinion is someone who has all the qualities like kindness, drive, controlled aggression, empathy etc. in harmony and has internalized his status through strength of a character and people respect him for it. That's something to aim for instead of going to some extreme with drugs. Surely some substances can help by pushing you to the right direction. The SSRI probably doesn't help.

Perhaps Babychris is already an alpha by your Disneyfied definition, since he has "kindness state of mind/purity soul," and yet, he wants to be "bad" because the former is not getting him where he wants to be with girls.

[machete234]

I think you can slowly build up your personality but being alpha and becoming a bad boy will make all the people around you cringe, nothing more.

[Babychris]

You are debasing my word!

I'm not saying I want to be bad like the bad guy in your US movies, or this stupid guy which stick around girl all his freetime.

I just want to push my selfconfidence At his top. But it's so complex since I know that I'm very sure of me (mentally) but then I still have some serious impairment when I face a girl. It's more a topic for Socialanxietysupport but I thought that nootropics can help in some areas. Piracetam is quite good for that but nothing miracle.

[machete234]

Ok, most things that will give you more self confidence are considered drugs by 99% of all people and they will work for a short amount of time.

[jly1986]

I don't want to be a "jackass", but I don't want to be this stupid guy treated like a toy though..

I guess you all know that smart people like us could be in some situation "god-likes" but the fact is that in public it's very hard to stay all the time ourselves not because we will enter in a roleplay but more because of our shyness/lack of self insurance.
I suffer too from a lack of steadyness which make me paranoid, I feel all the time that I'm not myself..

But I'm sooooo sad to know it's partially due to SSRI, before I was on, I was sooo sad but sooo good, now I feel insipid, and I can't admit that the girl don't love me but I prefer to say that the girl don't love the drug which control me. Oops my last sentances looks a bit like a paradox

I think the first step is to really know yourself, who you are, what you do best. In other words, be confident in your identity. Then seek out like minded people who appreciate you.

Also, don't worry about the reactions of one girl. Learn from the experience, and move onto the next. Learn from every experience with girls, since each will be different. Eventually, the right one will find you.

[Babychris]

I already know this.. I wish I could try adderall but it's forbidden in my country. Modafinil is like the total opposite for me on SA.

Cocaine and amphetamine : I'm not dogmatic on this and that, but as you have already say it's short-acting so useless.

[Galaxyshock]

True alpha is not a jackass jerk. A jackass jerk is still better than a wussy when it comes to succeeding in this world. But an alpha male in my opinion is someone who has all the qualities like kindness, drive, controlled aggression, empathy etc. in harmony and has internalized his status through strength of a character and people respect him for it. That's something to aim for instead of going to some extreme with drugs. Surely some substances can help by pushing you to the right direction. The SSRI probably doesn't help.

Perhaps Babychris is already an alpha by your Disneyfied definition, since he has "kindness state of mind/purity soul," and yet, he wants to be "bad" because the former is not getting him where he wants to be with girls.

No? He's half of that because he has the kindness etc. qualities which is good but he seems to lack the confidence, determinination, control etc. which balance things out and complete the character. SSRIs have the tendency to make person lull in the kindness and wither away those other qualities improtant of being a MAN. Dopaminergics (I'm roughly simplifying things, the brain chemisty is of course not this simple) instead tend to push some of those qualities up but in excess can make one reckless, arrogant etc. So balance is the key.

I'd suggest tapering off the SSRI, adding some "promasculine" things like Ginseng, Maca, perhaps something to boost dopamine, start lifting weights and rediscover the manhood.

Edited by Galaxyshock, 13 June 2013 - 12:44 PM.

[Babychris]

I imagine that "lifting weights" is the better option haha! I have all the stuff at home, I mean all the herbs haha. I don't know all this stuff makes me yawny as twillight movies... I'm a bad responder to anything stimulating, maybe due to my general anxiety disorder..

I should give a serious try to ginseng. I have some chinese ginseng root. But I don't know what dosage do I have to take.

I'm also taking from time to time 1g of maca and some tribulus, but I don't know how to feel.

[Galaxyshock]

Good thing about Ginseng is that it has both stimulative and calming qualities. Dosage is often determined by the amount of Ginsenosides, I usually use 50-100mg ginsenosides / day from standardized extract. Try to find out at least a rough estimation of the % of ginsenosides in the root and base the dosage by that, or follow some other suggestions. Ginsenosides alone don't completely determine the effectiness of the herb.

[prunk]

First take a badass tattoo, then watch some Vladimir Putin's videos on youtube driving a motorcycle and giving speeches, after that start a barfight, preferably while on cocaine and testosterone shots, and finally wear a red scarf like John J. Rambo did.

[Thor]

Not necessarily all drugs would be short term, one major exception is Selegiline, if you want to go that that route, but you need to be careful. I'm surprised nobody mentioned it, though I can guess why. See this for example, for a review:

http://www.longecity...giline-journal/

[norepinephrine]

My friend, I think what you're looking for is a boost in a handy little hormone known as testosterone...

If you're still young, I'd definitely advise going the natural route to avoid long-run hormonal downregulation. http://fitness.merco...one-levels.aspx and http://paleohacks.co...one/19016#19016 should give you a start.

As well, any vigorous type of HIIT/resistance exercise should give you a boost in BDNF, NGF, dopamine receptor sensitization, etc.

[Babychris]

First take a badass tattoo, then watch some Vladimir Putin's videos on youtube driving a motorcycle and giving speeches, after that start a barfight, preferably while on cocaine and testosterone shots, and finally wear a red scarf like John J. Rambo did.

Sorry I may sound rude, but your point of view of what should be an alpha male, and I car fairly say it; is biaised and obsolete, if not an archaic and false statement.

World is so much more complex you can't tarnish it by reducing an alpha male with this oversimplification. Physically I'm an alpha male got a serious flowing black beard and I have twice the "normale" of DHT.
The funny thing is how smart you can be, you got all this prejudice of what is a alpha male. And maybe my problem is what I feel disconnected with our society but that's a problem I have to speak pour Psychiatrist.

then again sorry for my bad english it's hard to express my point.

Edited by Babychris, 13 June 2013 - 07:36 PM.

[progress_]

Get yourself together, learn from your mistakes and realize there are thousands of girls out there that suits you, millions of girls.

The best way to not be "alpha" is to suffer over this failed "relationship". She found you boring, you learned a lesson and now you can move on to the next one with more tricks in your bag and improved self insight.

[prunk]

First take a badass tattoo, then watch some Vladimir Putin's videos on youtube driving a motorcycle and giving speeches, after that start a barfight, preferably while on cocaine and testosterone shots, and finally wear a red scarf like John J. Rambo did.

Sorry I may sound rude, but your point of view of what should be an alpha male, and I car fairly say it; is biaised and obsolete, if not an archaic and false statement.

World is so much more complex you can't tarnish it by reducing an alpha male with this oversimplification. Physically I'm an alpha male got a serious flowing black beard and I have twice the "normale" of DHT.
The funny thing is how smart you can be, you got all this prejudice of what is a alpha male. And maybe my problem is what I feel disconnected with our society but that's a problem I have to speak pour Psychiatrist.

then again sorry for my bad english it's hard to express my point.

Alright..
Well, it was sarcasm.

Edited by prunk, 13 June 2013 - 08:29 PM.

[Babychris]

I know man..

[Babychris]

it's not about what you have say but much of what you think.

Because my real point was not the attributes of a potential alpha male but more on a self acceptance. but I know it's more than partially due my lack of clearness (on the title for example)

Edited by Babychris, 13 June 2013 - 09:43 PM.

[1kgcoffee]

Not a supplement, but I would recommend a period of 'nofap'. The link between sex/ejaculation and the sort of aggression and alpha male self-confidence that you seek has been clearly established. You can still have sex, just abstain from pornography and masturbation completely for a few months. You will be surprised with the results.

It has to do with reward signalling in the brain and the biological drive to reproduce. By abstaining, you will notice changes in behaviour, demeanor and attitude. Some here will label this pseudoscience, but you must try it before ripping on the idea.

Go to http://yourbrainonporn.com and watch some of the videos.

[BLimitless]

Zinc and creatine... Cultivate breathing meditation (pranayama) and be centred wherever you may so be.

Over the last few years I have become distinctly aware of a fractal geometric grid that pervades the cosmos and composes us; moving in alignment with this brings harmony. My movements are now fairly precise and agile after two years of deliberate cultivation.


Zinc I have been dosing at like 80-100mg a day for a brief interval, just to jumpstart my body. It makes you feel very alive and provides restful sleep, relaxed composure, able presence. Anyhow, breathing meditation and tapping into that ferocious inner anger and channeling it; Zinc really fuels it I find.


Find the paths of least resistance of movement wherever you are so life would feel effortless and you are doing nothing yet doing everything automatically and subconsciously. We are all after that NZT experience and I'd say these are what have brought me the most fruit over my life.

Celibacy I would strongly recommend. Learn to control and harness your sexual energy and use that as the creative force that drives you from within. Channeling this stuff makes you feel beastly and at one with all. A fully relaxed mind cannot be perturbed by any catastrophes, it is beyond all that appears in front of it. So being still within yourself and occupying the space you occupy and really getting a feel for that space and your presence herein, you will feel at ease and therefore able and responsible. Celibacy is what creates a magnetic aura in a person, or a sensual charm, like a field that surrounds the person and hits other people before they even see that person. It maks the ladies go nuts, absolutely wild. It is the doorway to sensuality and tenderness and serenity and the ability to see beyond all deceptions.



Deep belly breathing into the lower 'dan tien' is a nootropic I would say surpasses Noopept by leaps and bounds. Practice breathing deep into your pelvic floor and lower back and being relaxed. The airflow will be incredibly refreshing. Up to that point where the diaphragm reaches below the navel the breath is not really felt except as a wisp of air. But below the navel, into the bladder region, there is a sensation of thirst being quenched with every breath. Perhaps this could have something to do with bladder pressure causing fluid reabsorption somehow but either way, you will feel like you are drinking a perpetually cool and divine drink. And it will feel ecstatic, and what is more 'alpha' than abiding in total ecstasy!

The Progress of Insight: (Visuddhiñana-katha) [vipassana full description]

Edited by BLimitless, 15 June 2013 - 06:40 AM.