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What substances make you AWAKE ?

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#31 Even_Smarter

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:22 PM

Thanks for your input!
I have read through all of your suggestions. Some substances make me more alert, but I can't get rid of the feeling that I could switch to REM sleep any time I want. Maybe it is partly psychological meaning that I rather dream than being awake. Sometimes I sleep complete 11 hours. I truly am more awake in my dreams than in reality.


1) Modafinil: Does help, but it is not the kick. Causes dry throat.

2) Phenylpiracetam + Oxiracetam: I am definitely in to try Phenylpiracetam. Oxiracetam gives me a kick almost immediately after swallowing. But it doesn't last too long.

3) 1g-2g aniracetam + 75-150mg caffeine every 4-5hours: I could add aniracetam to my Piracetam stack, though I never felt any effects of it.

4) 3-4g Piracetam, 200mg Phenylpiracetam, 250mg CDP-choline, 100mg Modafinil: Basically Number 1) + 2)

5) Panax + Rhodiola: I need more info on that, although I understand that Rhodiola is a MAO-I

6) 20oz Coffee + 1 Wellbutrin (Buproprion) SR in the AM: I would give Wellbutrin a try, until now I just have had the MAO-I Moclobemide, which completely cured my inability to fall asleep. I took my 2-3 hours to fall asleep although I was tired. I took it just for 5 months and quit it half a year ago. Still since then I have no problems to go to bed. Amazing.

7) Selegiline and and an afinil to work extremely well: This would be MAO-B-Inhibitor + Modafinil. Generally I would avoid MAOIs especially the B and irreversible ones.

8) 25mg of tianeptine + 600mg of nicotinamide = 8 hours of high focus and zero drowsiness: i.e. Tianeptine + Vitamin B3. I will give B3 a shot, for a deficiency can lead to my symptoms.


I will order some Phenylpiracetam, I am very excited about that. Oxi/Aniracetam I already have. Then Wellbutrin if the former wont work. And of course some B3.

Edited by Even_Smarter, 30 September 2013 - 12:23 PM.


#32 BLimitless

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:56 PM

You're looking for a substance but have you considered this could be a posture issue? When the lower bladder region is obstructed by tight hip flexors, meaning your belly protrudes outwards, the air circulation is cut off. This means you will operate at sub-100% air exchange and consequently you will literally be choking yourself out. The resultant experience is chronic fatigue & sleepiness and also a state of restless inner tension that seems to have no discernable source. Instantly fixed by squeezing your glutes and opening the area and taking a deep breath. This sounds very much like what is going on here.

10 breaths at 100% air flow => 10 vols in and out
10 breaths at 40% air flow => 4 vols in and out

Brain uses 20% of the body's air flux!



In the age of sitting down to use a computer all day, this phenomenon is a global pandemic! So be aware!


This doesn't make sense to me. If carbon dioxide levels get too high in the blood, the medulla oblongata acts to increase the rate of breathing. If we were really low on oxygen, then that means we would be high in carbon dioxide in which case we would simply breath more until we blew off the carbon dioxide and increased oxygen saturation to the correct level. In short, it wouldn't really matter if gas exchange efficiency was sub-par due to bad posture because we'd just breath more. I could be wrong, but those are my first thoughts. Maybe it's a case of needing more oxygen than is simply normal in the blood for the brain.

Well, that is quite a hypothesis!

Do a simple experiment. Lean forwards in your chair.


Now lean back.


;)

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:22 PM

Well let me tell you this. Phenylpiracetam is awesome. Makes me awake as hell and there is no confusion or dizziness at all like when taking amphetamine. Your thoughts become crystal clear. Piracetam+Noopept+Phenylpiracetam+Cholin. Perfekt combo. And when I am nervous while studying or taking an oral exam some extra beta-blocker. Does not turn you into a drunk retard like Benzos. My nervousness is taking a lot of energy as well and kills my performance on exams. My performance today on an oral exam was so much better than usually.
I feel like I am godmode studying. Thanks^^

Edited by Even_Smarter, 08 October 2013 - 05:32 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:56 AM

Ginkgo Biloba can help fight off sleepiness/grogginess for some people. It supposedly blocks GABA receptors. Ginkgo combined with Ginseng could be a potential treatment I think - if you are trying to go the herbal route.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 12:51 PM

You're looking for a substance but have you considered this could be a posture issue? When the lower bladder region is obstructed by tight hip flexors, meaning your belly protrudes outwards, the air circulation is cut off. This means you will operate at sub-100% air exchange and consequently you will literally be choking yourself out. The resultant experience is chronic fatigue & sleepiness and also a state of restless inner tension that seems to have no discernable source. Instantly fixed by squeezing your glutes and opening the area and taking a deep breath. This sounds very much like what is going on here.

10 breaths at 100% air flow => 10 vols in and out
10 breaths at 40% air flow => 4 vols in and out

Brain uses 20% of the body's air flux!



In the age of sitting down to use a computer all day, this phenomenon is a global pandemic! So be aware!


This doesn't make sense to me. If carbon dioxide levels get too high in the blood, the medulla oblongata acts to increase the rate of breathing. If we were really low on oxygen, then that means we would be high in carbon dioxide in which case we would simply breath more until we blew off the carbon dioxide and increased oxygen saturation to the correct level. In short, it wouldn't really matter if gas exchange efficiency was sub-par due to bad posture because we'd just breath more. I could be wrong, but those are my first thoughts. Maybe it's a case of needing more oxygen than is simply normal in the blood for the brain.

Well, that is quite a hypothesis!

Do a simple experiment. Lean forwards in your chair.


Now lean back.


;)

Sorry, I don't follow. But yes, both are hypotheses. Bad posture being bad for breathing causing sub-par oxygenation of the blood, and it not. However, burden of proof is the on the positive claim. I was just saying why said hypothesis doesn't make sense to me on first inspection.

And, as far as I am aware, the part about the brain controlling the rate of breathing in reaction to carbon dioxide in the blood is established science. :D

Edited by Esoparagon, 12 October 2013 - 12:52 PM.


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#36 nightlight

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:03 PM

I really want to find a substance that JUST makes me awake as hell.


Try turning down temperature in your room to about 12-15C (or 54-59F), while being hungry so that you can hear occasional howling in your stomach. Obviously, you don't want to do this all the time, but only when you need to do lots of studying or other brain work in short time.





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