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#1 Viknow

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 06:35 AM


Hey guys,

At the moment Im interested in developing a stack to merely optimize my brains processing ability by eliminating ANY potential deficiencies. Im hoping that with this approach alone I may be able to produce some noticeable synergistic effects without dipping into the "synthetic" and imo more risky noot options; even though im sure at some point I will venture down that road.
Any input would appreciated. Im currently taking a multivitamin and some fish oil daily. I also try to exercise and meditate regularly. Thanks

#2 Godof Smallthings

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:58 AM

A good meditation practice where curious mindfulness is carried over into every aspect of your life, your exercise results, your school/job performance, your subjective assessment of your overall mood, as well as what those who know you well tend to say about you, could be good places to start digging in order to find out what might be enhanced.

Much more important than nootropics are optimizing your reactions to your environment (if you are easily stressed, anxious, irritable, aggressive), and to the extent possible, changing the parts of your environment that clash with your inner values. Performance- and career-wise, it is often smarter to work with and enhance what you are already good at rather than to trying to catch up within areas where you are deficient. For cognitive growth though, learning things that do not come naturally to you are optimal.

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#3 norepinephrine

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:12 PM

I'd recommend micronutrient testing and supplementing whatever is deficient. Two of the most affordable and prevalent tests are vitamin B-12 and vitamin D, which should be available through most standard doctor's offices (or testing facilities). The latter is relatively common among North Americans, whereas the former can be common among vegetarians or people who lack intrinsic factor. Correcting either yields "nootropic" results.

Sky's the limit, though; those two just happen to be the cheapest.

#4 AscendantMind

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

I like your approach a lot. I'm also trying to correct any deficiencies and optimize nutrition before I move onto more advanced types of enhancement. Fundamentals first.

Micronutrient testing is definitely important. Another thing you should look into is genetic testing. Many people cannot correctly process the types of B vitamins found in most supplements due to problems with methylation. For example, taking traditional folate or cyanocobalamin (B12) would be a waste of time for me. Even methylfolate would be counterproductive, as I cannot process methyl groups well. Hence I take dibencozide for B12 and calcium folinate for folate.

Folate and B12 are quite important for optimal mental functioning (in addition to many other processes), and the right form of folate may be especially important if you choose to take uridine. If you take the $99 23andMe test, you can upload the raw data into GeneticGenie and it will identify any methylation problems you may have. You can progress from there to identifying the right forms of B vitamin supplements you need.

Edited by AscendantMind, 08 October 2013 - 05:03 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:57 PM

Me too. I agree with the other posts here. Yesterday I ordered Moringa powder to try as a multi-vitamin alternative. I have as well planted moringa trees but they are not yet mature. You can google moringa, but it is a tree leaf that is well known for its high nutrient content of absolutely everything except B12 and Vitamin D. used to treat malnutrition in Africa.

#6 AscendantMind

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 11:29 PM

Me too. I agree with the other posts here. Yesterday I ordered Moringa powder to try as a multi-vitamin alternative. I have as well planted moringa trees but they are not yet mature. You can google moringa, but it is a tree leaf that is well known for its high nutrient content of absolutely everything except B12 and Vitamin D. used to treat malnutrition in Africa.


Hey katabatic, moringa sounds pretty cool. I've seen differing estimates of nutrient content, though. Do you know where I could find a good list of nutrition facts for it?

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#7 kurdishfella

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Posted 20 August 2021 - 08:31 PM

Its better to get vitamins from food than supplements becus it gives an balanced amount with other nutrients. But if your unhealthy taking a supplement like vitamin d can be the differnce between life n death.





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