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[tfor]

Hi,

I do not know anything about this stuff. They have tons of videos on youtube.

Binaural beats for pretty much ANYthing from depression, to libido enhancement, to DNA engineering.

To me this sounds ridiculous.

I mean even IF binaural beats influence the brain then HOW in the world is anyone to know what kind of frequency

is needed for example to raise testosterone or to help against depression?

They act like they can simply make a binaural mp3 for whatever health problem there is. Isn't this a joke?

I wonder if they also have binaurals against hemorrhoids.

 

I also listened to binaural tunes. They did absolutely nothing for me. One was called hands free orgasm. I listened 30 minutes and

nothing happened.

[Balfi]

The concept is somewhat simple. Two different tones in each eat separated by a certain amount (less than 30hz). Each are a simple solid (not fluctuating) tone, but when listening to both on headphones, the perceived effect is a "beating". Simply try removing one earphone and then the other.

The greater the degree of separation, the faster the beating will be. The frequency of that beating targets or corresponds to different mental states (Alpha, Beta, Theta, etc) This is all on Wikipedia.

After some time, you will be hearing a tone that is not being produced in either headphone. This is a sign that your brain hemispheres are synchronizing.

If you want to learn more about the sociological / historical implications of this - read the book "The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World". Fascinating.

Agreeably, the marketing of the binaural beats has gone too far referring to curing diseases and all sorts of things.

Look up Hemi-Sync which is the original old-school research on binaural beats.

[tfor]

The stuff I listened to [http://www.youtube.c...h?v=7CNhlUEndkc] sounded like a MRI machine. It wasn't a constant tone.

How can you tell if a binaural beat is even a real binaural beat?

 

[Balfi]

Put one headphone on and one off and see if they are both constant tones. Then see if they are slightly off individually. You should hear the beat when both sides of the headphones is on.

Some music is created with binaural elements and it is harder to pick out the tones that are beating. 

[tfor]

I downloaded a binaural beats app.

It allows you to make own "tracks" for example you can select wether you want mono,bi or isochronic.

Then you can also determine the beginning frequency and wether you want it to be constant or wether you want it to change.

But how do I even know what the different frequencies do when you listen to them?

Some preconfigured tracks for example start at 8hz and then go up and down again after a while. I wonder on what basis do the

developers of such tracks determine this?

[Mind]

A lot of marketing hype....just like with most supplements. I listened to the tones for a while. Did nothing for me....except to help me concentrate and get work done. I put on my noise cancelling headphones, crank up 40 hz for an hour, and ignore everything around me.

[Balfi]

I have found it to be overwhelming to listen at too high of a volume. I don't think that is the point at all. If, however, you are looking for more noise to blackout, try pink or brown noise on top of the binaural beats. Some people really like the pink or brown noise. Most programs have noise generators built in. I prefer without, and keeping the binaural beats pretty darn quiet.

 

If the binaural beats are too loud, your ears will feel pulsing after you take off the headphones.

Maybe some people are more effected by the binaural beats than others. I find to be able to hear the "ghost note" (the tone in between the two tones coming out of the headphones - which is not actually being produced) to be very soothing and interesting. That is the point.

I believe the same sort of effect is used by sound engineers to make sounds appear as if they are coming from far away. There is some very interesting development in this technology.

Check this out. It's a trip!

[tfor]

A lot of marketing hype....just like with most supplements. I listened to the tones for a while. Did nothing for me....except to help me concentrate and get work done. I put on my noise cancelling headphones, crank up 40 hz for an hour, and ignore everything around me.

 

What exactly are 40 HZ supposed to do?

 

And what I also wonder is it possible to make different track with let's say 40 HZ and they all sound different or would the noise

basically be identical because the all have 40 HZ?

[adarseer]

A lot of marketing hype....just like with most supplements. I listened to the tones for a while. Did nothing for me....except to help me concentrate and get work done. I put on my noise cancelling headphones, crank up 40 hz for an hour, and ignore everything around me.

 

I had the same experience :(
 

[renfr]

I had a very strong reaction to these, but it was 2 years ago, I reacted a few times and it boosted my cognitive abilities a lot.

It came with side effects that were kinda scary but overall the experience was good.

I don't know if my brainwaves synchronized with the tones or not or if the music actually helped me to enter into a state of deep meditation (though I have never meditated of my life). It remains a huge mystery for me.

 

Now today this doesn't seem to work anymore for me, I think you need a very malleable brain or a brain that can enter fastly into other meditation states for it to work. Maybe can this work when you're starting to become tired? I have noticed that being alert cancels out the effects.

[Mind]

I have found it to be overwhelming to listen at too high of a volume. I don't think that is the point at all. If, however, you are looking for more noise to blackout, try pink or brown noise on top of the binaural beats. Some people really like the pink or brown noise. Most programs have noise generators built in. I prefer without, and keeping the binaural beats pretty darn quiet.

 

If the binaural beats are too loud, your ears will feel pulsing after you take off the headphones.

Maybe some people are more effected by the binaural beats than others. I find to be able to hear the "ghost note" (the tone in between the two tones coming out of the headphones - which is not actually being produced) to be very soothing and interesting. That is the point.

I believe the same sort of effect is used by sound engineers to make sounds appear as if they are coming from far away. There is some very interesting development in this technology.

Check this out. It's a trip!

 

When I say "crank up", I don't mean super loud, I just mean "turning the beats on" or "clicking play on the youtube video".

 

No idea what 40Hz is supposed to do. Just found the video on youtube and listened. I don't think there are too many peer reviewed double blind studies you will find on the subject....just a lot of untested theory and speculation.

[tfor]

To me these whole videos look like a bunch of crap. They have videos for everything raging from sexual arousal to growth hormone production to hemorrhoids.

I really cannot take this seriously.

[Balfi]

To me these whole videos look like a bunch of crap. They have videos for everything raging from sexual arousal to growth hormone production to hemorrhoids.

I really cannot take this seriously.

 

 

Of course not, but it's just bad marketing. 

[tfor]

So you think these tunes do work? But I listened to some and didn't notice anything.

[sk_scientific]

I used a variety of different tones over the years.  I found some of them to help me study, but it seemed that it was because they drowned out the rest of the world.  I also found that they helped me get to sleep.  In so far as increasing my I.Q., or curing ADHD, big fat negatory.

 

I do suspect that doing brain entertainment with biofeed back in an EEG setting would prove beneficial, however.

[tfor]

Yes biofeedback would be really interesting.

However I read that those headsets for home use which measure brainwaves are useless.

I think they are simply overpriced toys.

[sk_scientific]

There used to be a university group with a DIY eeg/binaural setup.  I can't seem to find the link.  But for your consideration:

 

http://www.realizati...ectric_guru.htm

 

and:

 

http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/

 

[kurdishfella]

I think it can help certain people but the benefit alone for now is overblown. Some are also supposedly 'dangerous' like 4-6 frequency HZ no idea if someone made that up or knowledge from the past.

Edited by kurdishfella, 21 May 2022 - 01:11 AM.