Longtime Phenibut user, past abuser, been dependent on, been off. I estimate the first time I used Phenibut was 8-9 yrs ago. I used to buy it from 1fast 400. The effects were subtle relaxation combined with an increase in energy and a general sense of well being. Euphoria could be achieved by dosing higher for multiple days causing PEA rebound when Gaba agonism wears off. It was a relatively smooth experience unless dosing over 2 grams for multiple days.
Almost all the Phenibut these days seemed to make me extremely tired and give a dirty feeling too it. Even Liftmode's brand who is touted as the best and I'm sorry but I still don't think what they are selling is the orginal Phenibut from back in the day. Supposedly this is R-Phenibut. The same as they prescribe in russia.
Around 2008 I estimate the quality went downhill. It went from a super crystalline density to a baby powder type density. People began noticing the difference. It was even found by some that they wern't getting any effects. I never experienced not getting effects but what I did experience was getting a dirty tired feeling and I thought it was due to my body chemistry and using Phenibut off and on for so long that it no longer worked for me.
I recently decided to sample the russian Phenibut and it is what I remember. Clearheaded, smooth, relaxed, sociable.. The closest to this quality was back in the day Nutraplanet was selling a Super Phenibut which was a super crystalline. More so than Litmode's HCL. It was smooth and euphoric. They had one batch of it and then the quality returned back to being not so good. Many people can't discern the difference. I can't for the life of me figure out why this has happend. I'm sure there must be some pharmeceutical grade Phenibut around I'm just not sure where. Does anyone know who or where has the best quality?Aside from Liftmode. It should be very fine crystalline. I ordered a bottle from relentless improvement to see if it matches up to the Russian brand.
One big thing I must say also is that it is much easier to taper off R-Phenibut. Could also be called Real Phenibut,lol.. I understand many people have had success with Liftmode and other brands but I'm hear to tell you that there is better. Unfortunately the Russian brands cost a shit ton. Why is it easier to taper off? I would speculate it binds stronger to Gaba B and last longer allowing one to dose once a day. This is speculation but I used to taper on and off Phenibut no problem but when using the different quality from Liftmode I found it difficult to taper down. Its somewhat of a mystery to me.
Any long term Phenibut users here? I'm talking from back in the 1 fast days when Phenibut first started coming around.
Does anyone think that most of the quality of Phenibut is shit unless you get the pure Pharmaceutical brand. Supposedly this is R-Phenibut rather than racemic though I don't understand why a racemic mixture would cause a difference in effects. If anything I would think you would have to dose higher. I actually found with Liftmode I had to dose extremely low sometimes feeling effects at even 400mgs. It almost seemed stronger in a way but dirtier. I scoured the web looking for people that tried that russian brand then tried some bulk powders but there isn't 1 report. So I'm here to report.